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  • foxfire2dirtracing
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2309

    #16
    The heat races sucked!
    If the track hadn’t widened out- the feature would have been a train on the bottom!
    Just my perspective on it.
    It will be interesting to read the post if Moran wins Sunday at his dads track!

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14324

      #17
      I don't see how you could compare Moran winning at Musky. Nowhere else in the US can you have as much influence in the outcome of the race as you can at Florence in a race with Rice. If the top is fast, he wins or dnf. If top isn't the fast way, he doesn't win, period. Nobody is actually out running him if you make the top the best line.
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      • TS FAN
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 4236

        #18
        I was there and Josh put on show. He whipped every car out there. The fans loved it. Kid can wheel a car and runs good just about everywhere goes. Yes, best a Florence. So boo hoo if you want but that feature was a show and the star put butts in the seats

        BTW when Florence is right, this is the track you will see That is what makes it special

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        • foxfire2dirtracing
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 2309

          #19
          Can’t the other drivers run the top also?
          That’s how Pierce beat Bloomer a few years ago for the N/S. Scott won’t run the top and it definitely effects his finishes ( not that he is even competitive anymore).
          Heck -even the King of Catfishing EPJ is adapting to the top if track conditions merit it.
          One thing to consider: the Lucas regulars are points racing- Rice has nothing to loose in mashing the pedal topside -except for repairing torn up equipment.
          He only had to look at winning tonight- the Lucas regulars were looking at the big picture of season ending points. After all it was a 15k race and not a 50k race-so they were looking at a decent finish.
          I hope we can agree to disagree- cause if we were all alike we would be rooting for the same driver.

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          • lb_sa
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 183

            #20
            Jason Jameson finished 4th and Robby Hensley was running in the top 5 until he had a flat. Believe it or not, it helps to have more laps on a track than other competitors. This is the case at every dirt track in America. This post is comical. Way to go, Josh!

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14324

              #21
              Originally posted by lb_sa View Post
              Jason Jameson finished 4th and Robby Hensley was running in the top 5 until he had a flat. Believe it or not, it helps to have more laps on a track than other competitors. This is the case at every dirt track in America. This post is comical. Way to go, Josh!
              That's not the topic of discussion, nor are those guys usually a factor in a Lucas race at Florence. The OP asked a question about motivation for what was done to the track. That can't be proven either way. The result is what it is and was quite easy to predict.
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              • lb_sa
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 183

                #22
                Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                That's not the topic of discussion, nor are those guys usually a factor in a Lucas race at Florence. The OP asked a question about motivation for what was done to the track. That can't be proven either way. The result is what it is and was quite easy to predict.
                They sprayed the loose stuff and didn’t the bottom because it was rubbering. Seen it done at many tracks. Was there way more passing in the feature than the heats? Yes. Seems like the track prep was just fine. The others should run the top just as well as Josh if they are the best in the business. The North South is 100 laps that top will be worn off at the end, let me know when you find the prototypical track prep for a 60 lap race, when all the heats were get to the bottom as fast as you can. It didn’t matter if it was Rice or Sheppard, nobody was passing in the heats. Rice can run the bottom there just as good as everyone else as well.

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14324

                  #23
                  There was passing in the heat. The great Sheppard went backwards in the latter part of his heat. That's because he was passed. Rice is absolutely not that great running the bottom. He's not even as good as his brother at that.
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                  • lb_sa
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 183

                    #24
                    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                    There was passing in the heat. The great Sheppard went backwards in the latter part of his heat. That's because he was passed. Rice is absolutely not that great running the bottom. He's not even as good as his brother at that.
                    Not sure what races you were watching but the heats were a train race on the bottom. Sheppard got passed by one car at the line side by side (wouldn’t really call that backwards) because he moved up a lane, further proving my point that it was a train race on the bottom. He’s as good as any of those guys at Florence on the bottom. Maybe not at other tracks, but he can certainly hold his own there. The racing was much better in the feature, and that’s what the point of track prep is. Oh well, I enjoyed the feature. Tata.

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14324

                      #25
                      58 walked away from Sheppard and Rice's brother passed him. Shep stuck with that high line most of the race. Jameson went to the tail and rallied past some Lucas guys to make the show in his heat. Gilpin held his own on the outside in his heat. EPJ didn't hug the bottom in his win.

                      People like top trains better than bottom trains, I get that.

                      The track prep also played to what Rice does well, intentional or not. Tata
                      Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 07-01-2022, 01:01 AM.
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                      • racerx99
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 277

                        #26
                        bummer this race didnt get run back in the spring...when it was a little cooler and moister...was kinda hot today. at least we got to see some LMs race!!!! (seems the promoter is always the turd when it comes to the track, love it or hate it)..Yea Jameson

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                        • 4Barrel
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 619

                          #27
                          Whoever drove the #89 car used the whole track. He started last in the B main and finished second, and then made it to 7th in the A main. He used the bottom and also the top.

                          NASCAR will use VHT at some tracks and only in one lane or so. No different than Florence prepping only the top.

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                          • riddle28
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1088

                            #28
                            this post is what id expect out of a richards fan

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                            • King1
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 354

                              #29
                              Rice runs the top well, that’s about it. I agree with MB racer and the OP.

                              No way Rice wins the race if top wasn’t prepared just for him. Everyone likes when the local guy wins, but when it’s blatantly obvious the King’s catered to him, it kinda puts an asterisk by the win.

                              Yay, way to go Josh, congrats on the win*

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                              • Mams
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 885

                                #30
                                Very disappointed in this race … there was no 4-wide salute!
                                Will Rogers never met Donald Trump!

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