Hoosier going to just a couple of tires

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Any updates on this? I've been hearing it will be LM20 and LM40 only. That will be the final nail in the coffin of a lot of low budget teams. You can't run an LM20 rr at most places in the feature and a used LM40 is no good. They drop way off with each heat cycle.

[KTMLew]

See...I heard they building some paddle tires so races don't get rained out. Have 6" stagger built in so doesn't matter if front-end sticks. Think mud-buggy/winged spring car hybrid.

[cjsracing]

Any updates on this? I've been hearing it will be LM20 and LM40 only. That will be the final nail in the coffin of a lot of low budget teams. You can't run an LM20 rr at most places in the feature and a used LM40 is no good. They drop way off with each heat cycle.

I heard LM20, LM30 and LM40 with most of the production geared for the 30's.

[manwplan]

I heard 10,20,30,40. The 10 will be 1300 rubber geared towards GA/FL speed weeks and the Northeast.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm glad we all get to help UMP with their point fund

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I heard LM20, LM30 and LM40 with most of the production geared for the 30's.

That would be a little better. 30 not a bad tire, imo

[Drop Shock]

I remember a DirtonDirt article last offseason Francis or Schwallie said that Lucas would go to the 3 tire rule on August 1st this year before everyone else does it at the start of 2023. Looks like that’s not happening

[slmcrewchief99]

Hey MB. Are you saying the 1300, 1350, 1400, and 1600 tires are going away? That would be a blessing as far as I am concerned. We have to use these down south but have to buy LM's to race north of Arkansas. Kills us wanting to travel up there because we have to buy extra tires that we can't run around home.

[zyoung25]

Drop Shock, we all see how well those unified body rules worked that they were pounding on around that same time. Cars are worse looking now than they were at the start of the year.

I can see them pushing the tire agenda though. This should've been fixed several years ago, not now.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Hey MB. Are you saying the 1300, 1350, 1400, and 1600 tires are going away? That would be a blessing as far as I am concerned. We have to use these down south but have to buy LM's to race north of Arkansas. Kills us wanting to travel up there because we have to buy extra tires that we can't run around home.

That's what I'm saying. That's all we run. I hate LM tires in general. We also don't race UMP, so why juice their point fund?

[Barbecueboy]

Cigarette Sam retirement fund?

[Josh Bayko]

That's what I'm saying. That's all we run. I hate LM tires in general. We also don't race UMP, so why juice their point fund?

I don’t think they’ll be branded as the UMP tires outside of UMP country, but they’ll be the same compounds.

[cjsracing]

Thanks correct Josh. For example Wissota has a W30 tire that is the same as the LM30, except it is approx. $80 cheaper per Wissota contract with Hoosier. Certain regions will most likely have their "brand" of 30's or whatever.

[over4T]

Late '80-early '90s the northern California tracks were all on an any 11" tire rule. These shows paid from $3-500 to win at the weekly races.

The money- is -no issue teams often had new Goodyears every week at about $600 a set. These were one night tires except maybe the LF. The rest of us struggled to keep up on whatever we could afford. After a lot of heated discussion between the haves and have nots the tracks finally decided on a McCreary EC2, about the equivalent of a modern D55, that was just over $100 per.

Those things lasted 4-6 nights and the racing got noticeably better with more variety in the winners, better car counts, better crowds and even the richer teams reluctantly admitted it was a good move.

Point is taking cost out of what, for most, is a ridiculously expensive hobby is never a bad thing. The big time touring pros being the possible exception there's no good reason for dozens of models of tires, many of which are very similar. Cheaper for the Purple Mafia, cheaper for the other brands, cheaper for the teams, better for the fans. I can't see any fault with that.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Late '80-early '90s the northern California tracks were all on an any 11" tire rule. These shows paid from $3-500 to win at the weekly races.

The money- is -no issue teams often had new Goodyears every week at about $600 a set. These were one night tires except maybe the LF. The rest of us struggled to keep up on whatever we could afford. After a lot of heated discussion between the haves and have nots the tracks finally decided on a McCreary EC2, about the equivalent of a modern D55, that was just over $100 per.

Those things lasted 4-6 nights and the racing got noticeably better with more variety in the winners, better car counts, better crowds and even the richer teams reluctantly admitted it was a good move.

Point is taking cost out of what, for most, is a ridiculously expensive hobby is never a bad thing. The big time touring pros being the possible exception there's no good reason for dozens of models of tires, many of which are very similar. Cheaper for the Purple Mafia, cheaper for the other brands, cheaper for the teams, better for the fans. I can't see any fault with that.

Sounds like they gave you a good tire that heat cycled. Replace that with a bad tire and the whole argument changes.