HOOSIER - Unified Tire deal

[HoosierDirtFan]

HOOSIER RACING TIRE
Unified Tire deal

So what do you all think of the announcement yesterday with Hoosier Racing Tire, Tony Stewart, WRG (Brian Carter) / DIRTcar, & Lucas Oil going to a unified tire and only making so many late mod tire compounds for the Super Late Models?

I talk to a few drivers yesterday after the announcement and they believed it could very well hell the sport to some capacity.

[drich24]

Very well ??? the sport…

[Jim11h]

Sounds like monopoly. I'd rather see a this that and them tire rule that multiple manufacturers conform too so there's choice

[xray]

Sounds like monopoly. I'd rather see a this that and them tire rule that multiple manufacturers conform too so there's choice

yeah so you can have americans for the tracks they excel at and hoosiers for the ones they are better at, sounds cheaper to me...... smh

[JabberJaws83]

I've come to the conclusion that nothing will make anyone happy.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Hers your new tire. If you have a bunch of old stock, pound sand. When it gets a few laps on it, you can't regroove. You can buy another. Sounds wonderful...

[JabberJaws83]

The old stock should be a non starter argument. At some point, if you want change, you have to make a hard line change. Like the cars/bodies. They wanted change last year, but everyone cried that they already had their car ready under old rules.
Draw a line like they did with the old wedge.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

The old stock should be a non starter argument. At some point, if you want change, you have to make a hard line change. Like the cars/bodies. They wanted change last year, but everyone cried that they already had their car ready under old rules.
Draw a line like they did with the old wedge.

A line is fine, if you have some warning. I get it affects everyone differently, for some, it's a big negative deal.

These guys they cater to put a new body on every week. That's a whole different argument.

[JabberJaws83]

A line is fine, if you have some warning. I get it affects everyone differently, for some, it's a big negative deal.

These guys they cater to put a new body on every week. That's a whole different argument.

Yep, no argument there. The ones that cried are the only ones that could afford to make the change.

[JabberJaws83]

And the one guy that will never be happy, Tim Mcreadie

[Mike]

Hers your new tire. If you have a bunch of old stock, pound sand. When it gets a few laps on it, you can't regroove. You can buy another. Sounds wonderful...

When I pointed out they have been making new tire rules to save racers money and better DLM racing for the last 20 years while ignoring the real problem ....the modern day wedge bodies


Kelley Carlton told me to maybe go and ask the racers what they want. Because I know very few Super teams that weren’t in favor of this.


I wonder how many budget racers they actually talked to.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Mike,

The answer is zero. The pro and semi pro guys like fewer tires and no grooving. They have less employees to pay. They could care less about the hundreds of guys that used to carry this sport.

James Essex once reached out to me to talk about how to fix local racing car counts. I kinda feel like I was speaking French and he English, but he doesn't really make the decisions either.

From my standpoint, it's pretty simple. I can take ANY car built since 2000 and make it run with ANY car sold today. What I can't do, is get an engine that won 20 years ago, win today. Why can't I, the downforce is crazy. It has nothing to do with "fancy shocks". We can run wide open on Afco M2, once we put the correct damping curve in it.

[Mike]

Mike,

The answer is zero. The pro and semi pro guys like fewer tires and no grooving. They have less employees to pay. They could care less about the hundreds of guys that used to carry this sport.

James Essex once reached out to me to talk about how to fix local racing car counts. I kinda feel like I was speaking French and he English, but he doesn't really make the decisions either.

From my standpoint, it's pretty simple. I can take ANY car built since 2000 and make it run with ANY car sold today. What I can't do, is get an engine that won 20 years ago, win today. Why can't I, the downforce is crazy. It has nothing to do with "fancy shocks". We can run wide open on Afco M2, once we put the correct damping curve in it.

As you know I've been talking about the down force of these things for years. When they started shoehorning DLM's into a regular enclosed trailer it was easy to see the direction we were heading, but everyone wanted to concentrate on tires.

Things like this is why it's never going to change though.

https://twitter.com/TheFast49/status/1215311081339572226?s=20&t=WKw2R2CJpDGb55GrgGGNXA

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

As you know I've been talking about the down force of these things for years. When they started shoehorning DLM's into a regular enclosed trailer it was easy to see the direction we were heading, but everyone wanted to concentrate on tires.

Things like this is why it's never going to change though.
https://twitter.com/TheFast49/status...pDGb55GrgGGNXA

If you are winning, why would you want change?

[PushinTheLimit]

So I wonder if we can do just little things with the body to help with the aero problems we currently have. They asked that question to Shane McDowell in the Road to Eldora segment and I know one of the things was to shorten the spoiler. I wonder if doing something like closing back in the sail panels would help "dirty the air" as well. Having them as open as we currently have them, all that clean air is helping making the downforce to our cars. If you can't make traction, you don't need 850-900hp.