Weiss says how fast they jack the car up effects the droop measurement

[ZERO25]

Shouldnt they have a designated area so all competitors are treated fairly?

Why is it even an issue?

[MIdlmfan]

From an engineering standpoint a shock can generate a force only when it is being compressed or extender and the force is proportional to the velocity that that is occurring at but when they’re measuring droop the vehicle at that time is sitting totally static I am not a racer just an engineer so maybe you guys can tell me whether a racing shock has some spring characteristics to it as well that could hold a load when it is static otherwise I don’t see where Ricky’s argument would hold water unless there is a stiction component that could also come in to play

[lurker]

Good question!

[MIdlmfan]

Don’t know if it’s a good question or not … engineer and long time dirt late model fan and I try to look at things from a engineering perspective but I’m hardly a Kevin Rumley lol although physics is physics don’t know all of the characteristics of Racing shocks and such but do you know in its most basic form first year of engineering school you learn about a mass spring dampener system where in this case the mass is the sprung weight, spring is the coil or leaf springs and the dampener is a shock absorber doesn’t matter whether it’s a linear spring or a progressive spring or bump stops which would all be categorized as springs at the end of the day the static position on some thing is based on mass and springs nowhere in the equation does velocity come into it you could have an orangutan jumping up and down but when he jumped off where it is is where it is let him do it again and it will be in the same place which would be contrary to what Ricky would claim… but my thoughts are totally from a theoretical stand point but I think the Armstrong weight is enough to bring it back to the same point every time regardless of any velocity inputs

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Shock question:

These rf shocks have so much force at "zero" speed, that they can hold the wheel in place for a time or a least make the "return to zero" take a very long time. Its a crutch to make the cars take advantage of the aero. The rr often has a lot as well. Its another crutch to deal with the fact a 4 link suspension has issues.

These are massively over-damped systems, to give you some engineer speak.

[foxfire2dirtracing]

He failed the droop rule by 1 1/16 of an inch.

In reference to post #29: he did load up his car - but didn’t leave. He had his pit box, Jack ect. Out helping other teams.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Thanks ray cook

[Barbecueboy]

Thanks for nothin……..

[Rajflyboy]

Yes. Thanks for nothing

[Mantis]

XR series will no longer enforce the "droop rule" the remainder of 2022.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Same here. He usually always has insightful post.

Thanks guys!

[foxfire2dirtracing]

I like Ray Cook as a person but he hasn’t helped super late models as a promoter. After 17 years of the Southernationals they still have $4,053 & $5, 053 to win shows with no heat races. Fans to pay admission prices to see qualifying.

[billetbirdcage]

XR series will no longer enforce the "droop rule" the remainder of 2022.

XR is now 40" measured at the middle of t bar, so we gained another 1" of aero

[foxfire2dirtracing]

Correction: Fans don’t pay admission to see qualifying then straight to feature. They want to see racing. I understand Ray’s thinking: since it’s a low purse- save the drivers $$ on heat races. How many dirt tracks can stay open without fans in the stand??
The question is: who do you cater to- the drivers or the fans??
There has to be a lot of both- but I personally will not attend any race that locks in drivers to the feature based on qualifying and no heat races. Tilley does the same thing with his lower paying races. But we have to remember- Tilley worked for Ray for many years before the blow-up and him going out on his own.

[Josh Bayko]

XR is a joke.