Interesting stat from Derek Kessinger for this season

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Well if you look at EPJ a chassis does make a difference. 2 yrs ago he could barely make a starting line up. He got back in a longhorn and he is a threat to win again. EPJ didn't forget how to drive, that chassis he was in was and is terrible. That is until they copied other makes.

It ain't the chassis. It's the support that came with it. All that matters are the loads on the 4 tires and their alignment with each other. The cars are all close enough that those variables can be fixed pretty easily and quickly with bolt on stuff.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If Longhorn has 6 of the top ten in DOD rankings, how did Rocket win more races? I look forward to all the expert replies.

They are almost guaranteed a win when woo has a race.

[bleedblue55]

They are almost guaranteed a win when woo has a race.

Sorta like Longhorn in Lucas

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Sorta like Longhorn in Lucas

An run of the mill Lucas race, yes. However, a good deal of their shows are the "big shows" where cars from all around attend. Most WoO shows are just a woo show.

[Barbecueboy]

An run of the mill Lucas race, yes. However, a good deal of their shows are the "big shows" where cars from all around attend. Most WoO shows are just a woo show.

There’s a reason for that, and it’s all on them.

[Snake X3]

I agree. This year WoO was little more than a traveling regional series. The Mars series and the Cook series often had fields that were just as good. I don't expect either to expand their schedule or purses to rival WoO, but just from a quality of entries, they were just as good and often better. That says more about the decline of WoO than anything.

[Snake X3]

If you took one particular drivers wins out of the Longhorn side, the numbers match up better to the amount constructed!

If you take one particular driver out of the Rocket side, how does that effect things?

[Snake X3]

One thing about the chassis wars that bothers me is that Rocket and Longhorn are dominating. Back in 2015-16 I did a lot of tracking of the number of chassis entered in races and how they performed and things have really gone downhill since then. I hope the trend reverses. I'd really like to see more chassis out there and run competitively.

[Highside Hustler25]

They are almost guaranteed a win when woo has a race.

If you added up the numbers of Rockets in victory lane compared to Horns on the WoO tour you will be surprised how untrue that is.

[dirtcrazy4u]

It ain't the chassis. It's the support that came with it. All that matters are the loads on the 4 tires and their alignment with each other. The cars are all close enough that those variables can be fixed pretty easily and quickly with bolt on stuff.

MB, I agree with everything you said except the first 2 lines. Wasn't that car epj was chasing his tail in suppose to be that builders house car ? I believe he had some health issues which prevented him to be at the track, but I come from the old school way of thinking, if it's a pc of crap, toss everything out and throw something under the chassis and record your times and changes made. Me personally I don't know why more teams don't do that. I've discovered that what you may sometimes think will never work actually surprises you and can get you closer to were you want to be. You have your elite teams, then you have the guys that can run with the elite but somehow find a way to screw it up. Then you have the guys that when the track has all the bite in the world, they get to start up front in a heat race, only to fade as the night goes along and either DNF or if they Crack the top 12 it's a miracle.

[84wedge]

If you added up the numbers of Rockets in victory lane compared to Horns on the WoO tour you will be surprised how untrue that is.

If you add up the number of Rockets RUNNING the WoO tour compared to 'Horns, you will be surprised how true that is.

[zyoung25]

One thing about the chassis wars that bothers me is that Rocket and Longhorn are dominating. Back in 2015-16 I did a lot of tracking of the number of chassis entered in races and how they performed and things have really gone downhill since then. I hope the trend reverses. I'd really like to see more chassis out there and run competitively.

I done it around 2010-2012. I had it all written down on paper at one time. It was honestly mind blowing the amount of parody there was back then. I remember victory circle, masterbilt, rocket, and MB customs were near the top at that point. It's crazy now that 3 of the 4, don't even have a late model frame on a national tour.

[Josh Bayko]

I done it around 2010-2012. I had it all written down on paper at one time. It was honestly mind blowing the amount of parody there was back then. I remember victory circle, masterbilt, rocket, and MB customs were near the top at that point. It's crazy now that 3 of the 4, don't even have a late model frame on a national tour.

MB Customs seems to be fairly popular in UMP land lately. It’s not national level, but it’s also not insignificant.

I think the issue with Mastersbilt is that they really haven’t been able to adjust the suspension to modern areo the way Capital, Longhorn, MB Customs and Rocket have been able to do.

[Snake X3]

I done it around 2010-2012. I had it all written down on paper at one time. It was honestly mind blowing the amount of parody there was back then. I remember victory circle, masterbilt, rocket, and MB customs were near the top at that point. It's crazy now that 3 of the 4, don't even have a late model frame on a national tour.

I'll try to dig out the old stats I did and post. I think I may have even posted some of them here.

[dirtcrazy4u]

BWRC has been trying to get back on the national scene but for whatever reasons they always seem to run into a hurdle. I thought when JD got in one you may have seen a few guys try one out. That was sure short lived, Boom had a couple cars a couple years ago. He timed well but that was about it.