Tire situation for 2023

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I thought the point of the rule was to eliminate all these different tires?

Same here. I thought there were only NLMT stamped units, going forward.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Oh I don't disagree. I was merely pointing out how what they said would happen isn't actually happening.

In the northeast there are many problems. There are a lot of tires in the pipeline. Heck they quit making the 28.5 1325 in October 2021 and at the end of 2022 guys still had some. They can't just obsolete the open tires. Plus I'll bet you after Florida they won't have enough NLMT tires left. We'll be back to shortages again.

Another issue is Hoosier will have to pay the tracks to go all in on their tire. They were all ready cutting funding last year. If a track doesn't get paid they have zero incentive to mandate Hoosiers.

I ran a RR tire this year that was last produced over 2 years ago. I get what you are saying. Actually, I ran a few that have been discontinued longer than that, now that I think about it.

[Mopar DLM]

Us too we bolted up two Lucas 03 tires this year that were brand new. I am pretty sure they have not made those in a while.

[King1]

I was 16 when Hoosier changed the tire system from the old 3,6,12,15,21 etc. to the 1100-1600 system.

I’m not trying to sound like a jerk, but did everyone b1tch this much during that time?

[manwplan]

No one complained going from D tires to 4 digit tires because we were allowed to run the D tires until they were all gone. There wasn't a burn off period. It was open tire so as long as it met the size it didn't matter. Hoosier and the series didn't go well you can't run D tires anymore. Heck I remember before they made the 1425 (there wasn't 1325, 1425, 1450 at first) we would run D35 spec tires when it was the correct rubber for track conditions.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

No one complained going from D tires to 4 digit tires because we were allowed to run the D tires until they were all gone. There wasn't a burn off period. It was open tire so as long as it met the size it didn't matter. Hoosier and the series didn't go well you can't run D tires anymore. Heck I remember before they made the 1425 (there wasn't 1325, 1425, 1450 at first) we would run D35 spec tires when it was the correct rubber for track conditions.

Exactly. It was a change in looks only, at least in my neck of the woods. I've never actually been forced to pitch good tires, "cause rules". Parts are a whole different story, but that's a pretty new thing too.

[King1]

Soooooooo…..now that Hoosier is doing what goodyear did back in 2004, is the DLM world gonna kick em out and bring in something else??

Nah, Hoosier still hands out deals to people.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Mr Track owner loves his free hat and $1000 check.

[zyoung25]

Going back to the old digit tire compounds, was there ever an 0? I was very young, but I remember seeing an 0 at wvms. I don't remember the drivers name. We are talking mid 90s here.

I know there were guys making their own stamps back in those times too. That's why I'm curious if there was ever a true 0 tire.

[golddirt]

Can you say monopoly

[TheEngineer]

Going back to the old digit tire compounds, was there ever an 0? I was very young, but I remember seeing an 0 at wvms. I don't remember the drivers name. We are talking mid 90s here. I know there were guys making their own stamps back in those times too. That's why I'm curious if there was ever a true 0 tire.

McCreary tires used 0-6 for their tire compounds.They had 0 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 4 4.5 5 and 6

[over4T]

zyoung25, Don't know if Hoosier ever had a 0 compound but McCreary, American Racers' predecessor, sure did. It was little used by the Saturday night racers and eventually the left coast groups pretty much all settled on the EC2 which was a medium hard and long lasting tire. A friend's sponsor once sprung for a set of 4 of the 0s in our local LMS class and he kicked azz all night at Grass Valley but a 4 lap dash, 8 lap heat and a 20 lap main. all of which he won by a considerable lead, had them all down to the cords. We were getting $300 for a win then. Tires ran about $110 each.

Last time I saw anyone run them.

[Raceready]

Can you say monopoly

Y yes, I can " MONOPOLY " !

[zyoung25]

McCreary tires used 0-6 for their tire compounds.They had 0 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 4 4.5 5 and 6

zyoung25, Don't know if Hoosier ever had a 0 compound but McCreary, American Racers' predecessor, sure did. It was little used by the Saturday night racers and eventually the left coast groups pretty much all settled on the EC2 which was a medium hard and long lasting tire. A friend's sponsor once sprung for a set of 4 of the 0s in our local LMS class and he kicked azz all night at Grass Valley but a 4 lap dash, 8 lap heat and a 20 lap main. all of which he won by a considerable lead, had them all down to the cords. We were getting $300 for a win then. Tires ran about $110 each.

Last time I saw anyone run them.

I don't remember what brand it was. I am old enough to remember seeing McCreary tires on cars though. That could have been what it was.

Thanks for the info.

[dfhotlm33c]

Hoosier mid atlantic is up to $260 each for any of the old stuff like a 28.5 rib 1300, 1325, etc. That's just crazy. I am just hoping that the local tracks in my area don't adopt this right off hand. They run on a 1300 or harder rule, so hopefully they stick with that. I just can't afford to buy all new. I still have some brand new, old 29/11 economy NRM 1325s that are already grooved and siped from a few years ago that I have kept wrapped in temp controlled basement. They dig pretty hard and work well. Don't want to not be able to use those lol