will the WoO increased points fund & monthly bonuses get them more drivers in 2023?

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  • ftfiowa
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1070

    #1

    will the WoO increased points fund & monthly bonuses get them more drivers in 2023?

    sounds like WoO stepped up the money quite a bit for 2023... $252,000 more between monthly & year end points funds
    Last edited by ftfiowa; 12-08-2022, 12:52 AM.
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  • Oiler
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    • Oct 2021
    • 234

    #2
    Lucas will run three more races than WoO in 2023 but their purse total is set to exceed 5 million compared to WoO’s 3 million.

    With the number of big name, former tour drivers that left tours in 2022 to run their own (lucrative) schedules, I don’t know if we’ll see any of them return to either tour in 2023. Granted XR has scaled back their program a bit but there are still plenty of big money events across Lucas, WoO, XR and others that ‘pick and choose’ will probably continue in 2023.
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    • BloomerHarvickFan
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      • Jun 2007
      • 546

      #3
      If these promotions could get out of their own way, they'd see value in cooperation and support of the other series out there. I would love to see WoO and LOLMDS take the top 6 or 7 races in each series, and not schedule on top of them, and help to promote them as Co-Sanctioned events. Pay points for both series and pay points for a combined national championship title. I think they had something similar in the Big Johnson deal years ago. You could have bonuses involved if a driver wins either of the 2 individual series titles AND the combined series. And to sweeten the pot for committed drivers, you could offer a purse bonus if a driver wins who has perfect attendance in one of the series, and is not running independent. I feel like something of this sort, not necessarily just this format, will be the only thing that makes series racing attractive enough for the biggest names to commit.

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      • Josh Bayko
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 8737

        #4
        Probably not. There are only so many teams that can afford and want to tour, and picking and choosing is more attractive to some teams with as many high paying races as there are.
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        • Josh Bayko
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 8737

          #5
          Originally posted by BloomerHarvickFan View Post
          If these promotions could get out of their own way, they'd see value in cooperation and support of the other series out there. I would love to see WoO and LOLMDS take the top 6 or 7 races in each series, and not schedule on top of them, and help to promote them as Co-Sanctioned events. Pay points for both series and pay points for a combined national championship title. I think they had something similar in the Big Johnson deal years ago. You could have bonuses involved if a driver wins either of the 2 individual series titles AND the combined series. And to sweeten the pot for committed drivers, you could offer a purse bonus if a driver wins who has perfect attendance in one of the series, and is not running independent. I feel like something of this sort, not necessarily just this format, will be the only thing that makes series racing attractive enough for the biggest names to commit.
          Co-sanctioning was being discussed a few years ago. The races in question were the Firecracker and Show Me. They could never really agree on the revenue split, format and how provisionals would work, and it never happened. Then Lernerville was sold and the circumstances that would have allowed it to happen were no more.
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          • ftfiowa
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1070

            #6
            peyton freeman and todd cooney are racing with the WoO in 2023
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            • 84wedge
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2020
              • 2088

              #7
              The WoO point champion didnt even get into the top 5 of the Drivers of the Year poll, just an honorable mention. Less money, less clout, less competition. 3 out of the top 5 don't even follow a series, the other two were Lucas Oil. Might as well pick and choose.

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              • reid boys
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 647

                #8
                Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
                The WoO point champion didnt even get into the top 5 of the Drivers of the Year poll, just an honorable mention. Less money, less clout, less competition. 3 out of the top 5 don't even follow a series, the other two were Lucas Oil. Might as well pick and choose.
                Dennis erb doesn't care about any of that he's too busy counting 150k. Just spreading the cash out to some of the smaller teams. Hope it brings more cars out to the races.

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                • TS FAN
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 4236

                  #9
                  I am happy for ERB but the WOO series has lost its star luster IMO. They just travel to far and don't pay enough. Just wonder how two major series are going to survive for much longer.

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                  • Dlmfan123
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 4519

                    #10
                    Chris madden is going back to woo

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                    • squaredup12
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 346

                      #11
                      Madden should win WOO then…I think his established program will be too much for the B5 team first year out (if Shepp decides to return to WOO)…of course as I’m typing this I’m reminding myself that we don’t yet know what tour Rocket1 and Huddy will run.

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                      • foxfire2dirtracing
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2291

                        #12
                        Mark Richards has already posted that Rocket1 and Huddy will chase the Lucas Oul Tour for 2023z.

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                        • HoosierDirtFan
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                          • Dec 2012
                          • 22186

                          #13
                          squaredup12

                          Madden should win WOO then…I think his established program will be too much for the B5 team first year out (if Shepp decides to return to WOO)…of course as I’m typing this I’m reminding myself that we don’t yet know what tour Rocket1 and Huddy will run.



                          From what I have seen online both Hudson & Sheppard will be on the Lucas Oil Tour. That could always change though.
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                          • squaredup12
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 346

                            #14
                            foxfire…thanks for the info. I don’t have Facebook or Twitter, so I miss a lot of info that comes through those outlets. Interesting that both the Shepp B5 and the Rocket1 both plan to follow Lucas (side note: wonder if they’ll put together??)…I guess we’ll have to see where the points sit coming out of Speedweeks. Shepp seems to want another run at that Lucas title.

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                            • dirtcrazy4u
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 3212

                              #15
                              I'm going to be surprised if B Shepp stays on tour throughout the year. Just a feeling, but I think you may see him do something along the lines of JD and Overton.

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