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  • ready2rd
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 544

    #1

    Lucas

    Let's hear it know it alls. what's the opinions on the news that just came out???
  • Tireguy17
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1173

    #2
    Going to a chase style format

    BATAVIA, Ohio (December 8, 2022) – Keeping the momentum, the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series championship format is undergoing a major overhaul in 2023. The new model will be an elimination style fo...

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    • ftfiowa
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1074

      #3
      LOLMDS goes to nascar style format with a chase, but doubles point fund for 2023

      what does everyone think? 4th place in points gets $100k!
      Everybody Love Everybody!
      Spumoni!
      4m trolls are so sad....

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      • ftfiowa
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1074

        #4
        dont like the finale at eldora deciding it, but the $$$$ is good either way
        Everybody Love Everybody!
        Spumoni!
        4m trolls are so sad....

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        • Josh Bayko
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 8757

          #5
          Chase formats are gimmicky trash
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          Guerrilla Racing Junkies!

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          • BTExpress
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 1213

            #6
            Agree Josh....just another gimmick. It is one of the things that has driven a lot of dirt track fans away from NASCAR. It would be interesting to see what the drivers think about this?????

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            • billetbirdcage
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 2020

              #7
              Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
              Chase formats are gimmicky trash
              Not a fan

              Look at it this way for teams:

              You decide you are at a decent place in points so are going to run the rest of the season, spending a lot of money to drive all over the place and in years past that was offset by point fund money. Say your in 3rd in points half way thru, you have a decent idea of about where you might end up in points and the payout for that area.

              Well now you could be leading with a huge lead and pretty much know your likely to finish top 2 unless you have major problems. With the new format, if you have a couple of bad races at a certain time you could fall out of the chase and end up 10th or worse and receive very little point fund money. I guess some of that depends on whether they reset points. That could be a difference of 200K vs 40K

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              • Pennsboro32
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2020
                • 3440

                #8
                Everyone will love it except the guy with the giant points lead. Kind of gimmicky but DTWC should be quite exciting.

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                • zyoung25
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 8960

                  #9
                  I can see guys dropping off later in the year after they don't make the cuts. I'm not a fan of it being at eldora, or the point format either one. It'll add excitement for sure regardless of what anyone thinks.

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                  • dirty-white-boy
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 997

                    #10
                    Kinda seen this coming after listening to the JR Download with Brian France talking about why they did the chase in Nascar. Now you have a guy involved on the TV side of Lucas that has a background in stick n ball sports to the point where when you see him talk in his basement its all Duke Basketball stuff on the wall (as he talks about dirt late models)

                    Its sad that the product on the track is not exciting enough, now you have to manipulate the races by manufacturing the "moments" or excitement by creating this "playoff type format".

                    I mean I get that its not all that exciting at the last race of the year where the points leader just needs to enter to be the winner but isnt that the point of racing 50 races, may the best driver win!!

                    Gone are the 50 race seasons that determine a points winner based on the consistency over 40 plus tracks. What these "Sports" minded people forget is that our sport is not played on the same stage week in and week out. The stages are different each night. Lets face it, not everyone is good at Eldora just like not everyone is good at Port Royal.

                    All the elimination races are at big aero dependent tracks that do not product much racing at all. Great call Lucas!

                    Why the big drop in payout with the elimination round payouts...spread the cash out.

                    What is next? Dirt track stage racing?

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                    • 84wedge
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2020
                      • 2094

                      #11
                      So the guy in fourth can now win the championship?

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14324

                        #12
                        The money is good. Gimmick is a gimmick.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • Josh Bayko
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 8757

                          #13
                          If you’re cut at Port Royal in August, why even bother going to the remaining races? Or if you’re cut at PPMS, is ot really that necessary to go to Eldora for a third time on the season?
                          Follow me on Twitter: @JoshBayko

                          Guerrilla Racing Junkies!

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                          • foxfire2dirtracing
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 2309

                            #14
                            Only 2 seasons has the Lucas Championship “NOT” been decided before the last race.
                            This should be much better for the fans: “ A Race Within A Race.”
                            Everyone was barking about Portsmouth- now they are barking about the excitement of the new format and it being at Eldora- I just don’t get it- but I’m old!

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                            • Tireguy17
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1173

                              #15
                              Overall financial strength of the series teams is just as important, and this structure gives the teams more money.
                              Yes a driver can have a great year and lose the championship at Eldora, that is the downfall. But if a team doesn’t agree with this, they can go run WoO.

                              2022 Points Fund vs 2023
                              1. $150,000 $200,000
                              2. $75,000 $150,000
                              3. $50,000 $125,000
                              4. $40,000 $100,000
                              5. $35,000 $75,000
                              6. $32,000 $60,000
                              7. $30,000 $50,000
                              8. $26,000 $45,000
                              9. $25,000 $40,000
                              10. $24,000 $35,000
                              11. $23,000 $30,000
                              12. $20,000 $25,000

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