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  • Jerky
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 57

    #1

    Flat Tires

    Congrats to Smokey on the win last night. I can't recall ever seeing so many tires shredded by debris on a track. I remember a daytime World Finals about a decade ago when the big block mods had every car but one in the field burn off a right rear, but that was due to track conditions, not debris.

    It was kind of a bummer to see what was a good race turn into the punctured tire lottery.

    Has anyone else ever seen anything like this? Part of me thinks the right thing to do would have been to red flag the race as soon as they realized they likely had a severe debris issue. Letting them keep circling under caution probably flattened more than half the tires. At that point, part of me thinks the right thing to do would have been to give the positions back to those who punctured tires.

    But then the other part of me says there were guys who didn't pop tires, so they don't deserve to be punished. It seems more of a dumb luck than a skill thing that they didn't.

    I just know I'd be pretty pissed that I put two-three tires on and lost a decent payday because the track crew missed a hatchet in the track.
  • Jking24
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 1512

    #2
    Originally posted by Jerky View Post
    Congrats to Smokey on the win last night. I can't recall ever seeing so many tires shredded by debris on a track. I remember a daytime World Finals about a decade ago when the big block mods had every car but one in the field burn off a right rear, but that was due to track conditions, not debris.It was kind of a bummer to see what was a good race turn into the punctured tire lottery.Has anyone else ever seen anything like this? Part of me thinks the right thing to do would have been to red flag the race as soon as they realized they likely had a severe debris issue. Letting them keep circling under caution probably flattened more than half the tires. At that point, part of me thinks the right thing to do would have been to give the positions back to those who punctured tires.But then the other part of me says there were guys who didn't pop tires, so they don't deserve to be punished. It seems more of a dumb luck than a skill thing that they didn't.I just know I'd be pretty pissed that I put two-three tires on and lost a decent payday because the track crew missed a hatchet in the track.
    Definitely not the preferred situation for the teams or the series. I heard in one of the interviews they said that it was Somthing stuck in the track right under the flag stand in the main Groove. Not Defending anyone but that is not a typical place in the racetrack where that happens. I can't remember the particular race maybe the north/ south but I can remember a similar situation during one of the bigger races

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    • Oiler
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2021
      • 234

      #3
      I went up to the Pittsburgher in 2020. RTJ won the race and I believe was the only one of the starting field that didn't change a tire. There were cars already pulling in to change flats by lap 40.

      Went to the Blue-Grey that year too. Overton changed his RR on lap 60 and Madden stayed out to protect the lead. Made it to lap 93 when the RR finally quit. I think all starters changed at least one tire that day.

      I helped a team at the 2022 Blue-Grey....think we changed all four that day. What a mess.
      "Ain't it good to be alive and raisin' hell in Tennessee!" - Dusty Rhodes (1988)

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      • Jerky
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 57

        #4
        Originally posted by Oiler View Post
        I went up to the Pittsburgher in 2020. RTJ won the race and I believe was the only one of the starting field that didn't change a tire. There were cars already pulling in to change flats by lap 40.

        Went to the Blue-Grey that year too. Overton changed his RR on lap 60 and Madden stayed out to protect the lead. Made it to lap 93 when the RR finally quit. I think all starters changed at least one tire that day.

        I helped a team at the 2022 Blue-Grey....think we changed all four that day. What a mess.
        I've seen plenty of races where they burn the tires off the cars too. Just not one where debris takes out half the field under caution.

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        • Buford.Justice
          Senior Member
          • May 2020
          • 4981

          #5
          Kentucky Lake Speedway had the tire problem one year. Someone said the track was full of screws that were in something that they put on the track. I never did get the whole story on that one.

          The big feature that night was a "Flat Fest"...
          If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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          • Rajflyboy
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2020
            • 5907

            #6
            It was a piece of metal sticking up (unfortunately)

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            • dirtcrazy4u
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 3212

              #7
              They had eyes on the track during those yellow flag laps. 1 way radios, they more than likely told the drivers to look for anything on track. It's happened many times where you will see a driver stop on track until someone arrives so he can show the official what he see's. He always gets his spot back?

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              • JustAddDirt
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1893

                #8
                Klms

                Originally posted by Buford.Justice View Post
                Kentucky Lake Speedway had the tire problem one year. Someone said the track was full of screws that were in something that they put on the track. I never did get the whole story on that one.

                The big feature that night was a "Flat Fest"...
                One year to help the track hold moisture they put a bunch of crushed gypsum board on the track.
                screws came from that.
                I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                • Black F
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 838

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JustAddDirt View Post
                  One year to help the track hold moisture they put a bunch of crushed gypsum board on the track.
                  screws came from that.
                  who was the genius behind that project?

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                  • Buford.Justice
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2020
                    • 4981

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JustAddDirt View Post
                    One year to help the track hold moisture they put a bunch of crushed gypsum board on the track.
                    screws came from that.
                    That is what I heard, but I didn't want to come out with it since I wasn't sure. The gypsum board would draw moisture for sure.
                    If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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                    • crownman25
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 442

                      #11
                      Yeah those purple guys had a smile on there faces bigger than the grinch did when he stole x mas....

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                      • Buford.Justice
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2020
                        • 4981

                        #12
                        Those "purple guys" love a hard dry slick track also!!!!
                        If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14304

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Buford.Justice View Post
                          Those "purple guys" love a hard dry slick track also!!!!
                          They sell more tires if guys are bolting on the softies. That's why they brought the LM10, (NLMT1) back.
                          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                          • golddirt
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3772

                            #14
                            Klms was when Sherrie Heckenast had it. Was Lucas finale cost don O’Neal the title.

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                            • Jking24
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 1512

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                              They sell more tires if guys are bolting on the softies. That's why they brought the LM10, (NLMT1) back.
                              Most teams said their tire bill for Florida nearly doubled this year. Sounds like hoosier has fixed their cash flow issues to me lol

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