Today's cars

[over4T]

Dimpled roof has already been done. Recently saw pictures of a Modified that did it with a tractor and a trailer hitch ball. Laid it out carefully and had at it. It did weaken the roof enough that some reinforcing was called for. He said he couldn't tell that his car was any faster but the tech guy at his track said there was no rule against it Some people have too much time on their hands.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

when you say room for improvement , do you mean while maintaining the current body (down force ) rules?

Yes, I'm talking suspension flaws that exist because we are obsessed with downforce over suspension function. If the bodies were tamed down, some of the issues might naturally disappear as suspension function may become more important again.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Did anyone see the roof of JD's car? It has V shaped protrusions all the way across the back like some sort of stealth technology.

Those vortex generators on roofs have been around a very long time. I have an old roof from 2010 that has them.

[jog49]

"$10000 dollar engine limit with claimer rules."

A former Yugo mechanic won't attempt a super engine for that paltry amount. Durham, Cornett, Clements, etc. would see you coming and lock the door!

[dirtcrazy4u]

Great picture. It shows how dependent these cars are. Lip at the front of the RR wheel opening, the back of the roof, bottom of right side body. All done I'm sure in a wind tunnel. That spoiler at the LR is creating a lot of downforce. They need to start calling them super late missiles.

[Mopar DLM]

As long as that engine claim rule works like it did years ago. If you claimed a guys engine then you had to swap or you bought it and had to run it the next week. Lots of upset folks that got outrun by way less engine then they swapped for or bought. Oddly enough we never got picked on because nobody wanted to buy headers, bell housings and transmissions just to be able to run next week.

[fastford]

Yes, I'm talking suspension flaws that exist because we are obsessed with downforce over suspension function. If the bodies were tamed down, some of the issues might naturally disappear as suspension function may become more important again.

Yep , I agree with you 100% , and thus the expense , sad but I don't think you can put the genie back in the bottle now , finally going modified racing with my daughter next spring hopefully , about all me and her can afford ......

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Yep , I agree with you 100% , and thus the expense , sad but I don't think you can put the genie back in the bottle now , finally going modified racing with my daughter next spring hopefully , about all me and her can afford ......

Anyone with balls and a tape measure can put it back. These things are no mid engine Swartz car. However, it seems nobody wants to. I'm trying to decide if I want to find something else to play with or quit it all myself.

[BVogtjr30]

How about putting mandatory 2” holes in the nose in areas that won’t put the radiator at risk and possibly a smaller spoiler. The bodies are getting back to the wedge style and had to do a complete reset on the body @83? Maybe that’s what we need to look at again. Plenty of cars out there but only @40 shoe up for $50k to win but get Same amount for $5 to win. There’s a top tier of cars that most know they have no chance against and will show up for less money to win to be competitive

[Mike]

Well there is too much money in the sport for it too change now as long as you got this big money in the sport it's not going to change the local tracks can't afford to run supers now so if the money ever falls out then there will have to be big changes

2 things I have said for at least 10 years if not more. The bodies are going to kill the sport and as long as people keep packing the stands at the shows of the groups/sanctions that have the power to make changes nothing is going to change.

For those 10 years the only thing those sanctions wanted to talk about was the latest tire rule that was going to “save the sport”.

The only rules those top sanctions care about are the ones that help put money in their pockets.

[fastford]

Anyone with balls and a tape measure can put it back. These things are no mid engine Swartz car. However, it seems nobody wants to. I'm trying to decide if I want to find something else to play with or quit it all myself.

I am gone try and help the few buddy,s i have that can still afford to run a late model , but my daughter is ready to race again , house is nearly finished so were going modified racing next year, I doubt I will ever quit being involved in racing in some form , and to me thats the beauty of dirt racing , there is a class for about any budget , if you want to race .....

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I am gone try and help the few buddy,s i have that can still afford to run a late model , but my daughter is ready to race again , house is nearly finished so were going modified racing next year, I doubt I will ever quit being involved in racing in some form , and to me thats the beauty of dirt racing , there is a class for about any budget , if you want to race .....

I hear you. I own like 4 of those crown vics. It doesn't get any cheaper, but the tech side of things is quite boring.

[Mopar DLM]

Is there any chance that in an off season they decide to change the body rules as an attempt to draw more attention to the sport and try to attract more people to come watch to see how the cars race differently. Would help sales as everyone would have to go out and buy or build new bumpers, nosepiece, T bar, sheet metal.

[billetbirdcage]

Is there any chance that in an off season they decide to change the body rules as an attempt to draw more attention to the sport and try to attract more people to come watch to see how the cars race differently. Would help sales as everyone would have to go out and buy or build new bumpers, nosepiece, T bar, sheet metal.

Anythings possible but I give it a 99% chance that nothing changes on body rules

[Rajflyboy]

I love the bodies. These things are animals on the track and fast as hell.