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  • pierceFAN
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 4586

    #16
    Originally posted by kidrock View Post
    Is all you do all day is whine about Pierce. I like both RTJ and Pierce and thought they both put on a great show for the fans coming from 13th and 23rd respectively. There at the end of that race Rickey slid Pierce and then Pierce returned the favor. Like Rickey said it was the cleanest dirty slider but, they never touched and he would put that in the memory bank. So at some point it sounds like to me Rickey will race him like that and return the favor and at that point are you going to come on here and say Rickey is a dirty driver. I know I'm sure not. I'm going to say Bobby deserves that pay back. Pierce definitely had the falsest car at the end of that race. It sounds like some have become so soft when it comes to racing anymore.

    They're not racing for 1,500 anymore now it's 75,000 and they do it for a living so, you might have to ruffle a few feathers along the way. Just as long as you except it when come back around to bit you. Great race and thanks to Bobby RTJ and the rest for putting on great show last night.

    Excellent perspective 💯

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    • Barbecueboy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 18116

      #17
      Very entertaining…….some high level driving all through the field. Florence rocks
      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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      • SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
        Banned
        • Dec 2019
        • 777

        #18
        Originally posted by kidrock View Post
        Is all you do all day is whine about Pierce. I like both RTJ and Pierce and thought they both put on a great show for the fans coming from 13th and 23rd respectively. There at the end of that race Rickey slid Pierce and then Pierce returned the favor. Like Rickey said it was the cleanest dirty slider but, they never touched and he would put that in the memory bank. So at some point it sounds like to me Rickey will race him like that and return the favor and at that point are you going to come on here and say Rickey is a dirty driver. I know I'm sure not. I'm going to say Bobby deserves that pay back. Pierce definitely had the falsest car at the end of that race. It sounds like some have become so soft when it comes to racing anymore.

        They're not racing for 1,500 anymore now it's 75,000 and they do it for a living so, you might have to ruffle a few feathers along the way. Just as long as you except it when come back around to bit you. Great race and thanks to Bobby RTJ and the rest for putting on great show last night.
        Ruffeld feathers being the key words here. Lol...

        Smh, It's just to dam easy.

        Laughing........

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        • SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
          Banned
          • Dec 2019
          • 777

          #19
          "Very entertaining…….some high level driving all through the field. Florence rocks"

          ^you darn skippy mate!

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          • SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
            Banned
            • Dec 2019
            • 777

            #20
            Originally posted by pierceFAN View Post
            Excellent perspective 
            Whoa! An approval from russ! It's official kid, you're one of the bobby bunch elitist. L!!

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            • t3r3e3
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 1962

              #21
              Overall it was a great three day show. That said, the inverts were hot garbage. The track was way too fast for guys who had run well earlier in the weeks to make it through the invert, and it was just hold it to the firewall on the middle-bottom. The only heat worth watching was Heat 6. If Florence is going to continue using the invert they need to slow the track down come heat time. Otherwise it’ll encourage guys to sandbag the first couple days to get a front row starting spot.
              We'll miss ya Doc Watson...

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              • SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
                Banned
                • Dec 2019
                • 777

                #22
                Originally posted by ftfiowa View Post

                batesville is next weekend
                Yep, and I'm thinking paybacks for lil bobby? Should be good! Smile

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                • 1forthe$
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 218

                  #23
                  I've never been a fan of Bobby in the past, for many reasons involving the way he drove others (not dirty, just with very little respect for their equipment) and also because of the actions of his crew/family. However, I have always enjoyed the fact that he will put on a show and give you your moneys worth if he was out there. You can never count him out if there is a line up on the highside.

                  I was proud that something had seemed to click this year for him. I cant say I've watched every lap he has ran this year, but its been noticeable that he seems more patient, picks and chooses better of when to go, has learned to keep the rear deck on it, and not drive over others.
                  However I was let down by him last night. Even when he had the fastest car with plenty of time left, he chose to take that line and make that move. Yes, technically they didn't touch.. but IMO he flat out ran him to the wall with a line that would never be taken unless that was the actual intent. Squeezing someone low to take away the bottom or changing your line to take away theirs is one thing.. diving in and running them to the wall is another.

                  You haven't heard guys like Mcdowell, Owens, Bloomquist, EPJ, etc.. have to stand in victory lane and apologize for driving others 'kinda dirty'. I guess that's what separates the really good from the greats. I'm conflicted because while it gets old hearing NASCAR drivers complain and cry when others are even near them creating very boring racing.. but I def don't like moves like that one.
                  It is interesting to see how different a guy will drive one car vs. another though. I've said for years that for as great as JD is (and I'm kind of becoming a fan..) a lot of his 'wow' moments come due to others lifting, avoiding, and/ or choosing not to wreck. For instance his start last night in the heat race. Then as he drove through the field it was with little regard to those around him.. until he got to McDowell. He chose to slow down, get technical and race him very respectfully. I noticed several guys do that with McDowell actually. While he has earned that 'extra' respect, the point is he has earned it by racing EVERYONE that way.

                  I actually made a joke last night that I wonder if the 17m crew even brings body work tools with them to the track anymore.. or if they are just dusty on the shelf at home. I was told yes they do.. in case a crew guy scratches anything when unloading the car LOL.

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                  • SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2019
                    • 777

                    #24
                    I'm good with this poster ^^ but.... You're going to break a few hearts with all that truth about bobby's stupidity on the track last night, ya know it?

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                    • kidrock
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 16407

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS View Post
                      Yep, and I'm thinking paybacks for lil bobby? Should be good! Smile
                      And if that happens he will deserve it. I will wait to see how he handles it when it does happen.

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                      • SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 777

                        #26
                        Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                        And if that happens he will deserve it. I will wait to see how he handles it when it does happen.
                        Oh, yea, ok. That's right. Sir Elite.

                        L some more.....

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14303

                          #27
                          t3r3e3,

                          The invert made for a lot of passing in the feature. It didn't stop 32 and 20rt from reaching the front. It definitely added to the fan experience.
                          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                          • kidrock
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 16407

                            #28
                            Originally posted by 1forthe$ View Post
                            I've never been a fan of Bobby in the past, for many reasons involving the way he drove others (not dirty, just with very little respect for their equipment) and also because of the actions of his crew/family. However, I have always enjoyed the fact that he will put on a show and give you your moneys worth if he was out there. You can never count him out if there is a line up on the highside.

                            I was proud that something had seemed to click this year for him. I cant say I've watched every lap he has ran this year, but its been noticeable that he seems more patient, picks and chooses better of when to go, has learned to keep the rear deck on it, and not drive over others.
                            However I was let down by him last night. Even when he had the fastest car with plenty of time left, he chose to take that line and make that move. Yes, technically they didn't touch.. but IMO he flat out ran him to the wall with a line that would never be taken unless that was the actual intent. Squeezing someone low to take away the bottom or changing your line to take away theirs is one thing.. diving in and running them to the wall is another.

                            You haven't heard guys like Mcdowell, Owens, Bloomquist, EPJ, etc.. have to stand in victory lane and apologize for driving others 'kinda dirty'. I guess that's what separates the really good from the greats. I'm conflicted because while it gets old hearing NASCAR drivers complain and cry when others are even near them creating very boring racing.. but I def don't like moves like that one.
                            It is interesting to see how different a guy will drive one car vs. another though. I've said for years that for as great as JD is (and I'm kind of becoming a fan..) a lot of his 'wow' moments come due to others lifting, avoiding, and/ or choosing not to wreck. For instance his start last night in the heat race. Then as he drove through the field it was with little regard to those around him.. until he got to McDowell. He chose to slow down, get technical and race him very respectfully. I noticed several guys do that with McDowell actually. While he has earned that 'extra' respect, the point is he has earned it by racing EVERYONE that way.

                            I actually made a joke last night that I wonder if the 17m crew even brings body work tools with them to the track anymore.. or if they are just dusty on the shelf at home. I was told yes they do.. in case a crew guy scratches anything when unloading the car LOL.
                            You make some good points but, the only thing I disagree with is that a driver can only squeeze someone off the bottom but, can run them up the track. Bobby ran him up the track to get the spot back. Was it dirty Bobby even said so but, it's racing for 75,000. Dale Earnhardt made a living doing that and as the same as Bobby he had fans that loved him and fans that hated him. It's racing. Had he wrecked RTJ and took him out then that would be totally different.

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                            • 1forthe$
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 218

                              #29
                              I will also say that im probably more excited about The World 100 than I have been in many years. Im not expecting to spend hundreds of dollars just to see the JD show. It still may happen.. but its not just a foregone conclusion. Usually by this point in the year there is about 2 guys who are the clear cut favs.. but this year there are many who wouldnt surprise me. Rocket 1, 32, 20RT all on top right now. 49 looks good as of late, the B5 has been rolling decent lately, and did owens find something recently? 17m will be a threat until he stays at home and will the 76 be back to form?

                              Less than 4 weeks and we are gonna find out.

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                              • kidrock
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 16407

                                #30
                                Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                                t3r3e3,

                                The invert made for a lot of passing in the feature. It didn't stop 32 and 20rt from reaching the front. It definitely added to the fan experience.
                                Agree 100%. Even Bobby was crying about the invert but, like you said it made for some great racing.

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