84% of Lucas Oil races were won from the first two rows

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  • 84wedge
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2020
    • 2091

    #1

    84% of Lucas Oil races were won from the first two rows

    80% of Lucas Oil races were won by Longhorn chassis. 18% of Lucas Oil races were won by Rocket Chassis with the house car winning 55% of those.
  • klemmabyna
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2065

    #2
    I’d be more interested in those stats if you give me WoO and Lucas after removing pierce and rtj. Those two seem to be able to pass.
    And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard

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    • BillV99
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15

      #3
      Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
      80% of Lucas Oil races were won by Longhorn chassis. 18% of Lucas Oil races were won by Rocket Chassis with the house car winning 55% of those.
      I have it as 61% won from the front row for Lucas Oil in 2023, 44% for the Outlaws

      Lucas Oil Stats...


      World of Outlaw LM Stats...
      Last edited by BillV99; 10-03-2023, 01:28 PM.

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      • 84wedge
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2020
        • 2091

        #4
        Well, if they want to tweak rules and make things more exciting for the viewer, maybe they can start looking at the fact there's almost no passing rather than giving someone 1000 points behind the opportunity to be champion.

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        • 84wedge
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2020
          • 2091

          #5
          Originally posted by BillV99 View Post
          I have it as 61% won from the front row for Lucas Oil in 2023, 47% for the OutlawsLucas Oil Stats...http://sprintcarratings.com/SeriesSt...px?Series=LOLMWorld of Outlaw LM Stats...http://sprintcarratings.com/SeriesSt...x?Series=WoOLM
          Thanks for this, I didn't know it existed. Davenport has 11 wins this year and only one starting outside the first two rows. O'Neil has 13 wins and only 2 starting outside the first two rows.

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          • pierceFAN
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 4587

            #6
            in bobbys 12 WoO wins 5 were from the front row

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            • 84wedge
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2020
              • 2091

              #7
              It seems like the first two rows are pretty much the front row, especially if you're inside row two. That car almost always goes low on the start and is in second by the time they get to the line and usually situated for a slider for the lead. Who says you can't win a race in the first corner anymore?
              Last edited by 84wedge; 10-03-2023, 03:46 PM.

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              • pierceFAN
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 4587

                #8
                Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
                It seems like the first two rows are pretty much the front row, especially if you're inside row two. That car almost always goes low on the start and is in second buy the time they get to the line, and usually situated for a slider for the lead. Who says you can't win a race in the first corner anymore?
                clean air is king...cars are aero dominate

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                • Rajflyboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 5907

                  #9
                  This is awful but is expected

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                  • TS FAN
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 4236

                    #10
                    The North South plan was much better in my opinion. Or at least have a redraw from the top 8. Or at least the top six. I am surprised that only 61 percent were won from the first row. Of course RTJ often starts further back, and then passes showing it can be done. Make the racing more exciting. N/S was a great race.

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14320

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                      The North South plan was much better in my opinion. Or at least have a redraw from the top 8. Or at least the top six. I am surprised that only 61 percent were won from the first row. Of course RTJ often starts further back, and then passes showing it can be done. Make the racing more exciting. N/S was a great race.
                      Yes, if you are a half second or 6 tenths better than the field, you can pass. That's a high bar.
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • 84wedge
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2020
                        • 2091

                        #12
                        78% of WoO races were won from the first two rows.

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                        • 84wedge
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2020
                          • 2091

                          #13
                          Thanks to user BillV99 and his stat page (linked above on post 3), all but 4 of Lucas Oils 51 races were won from the first 4 rows and all but 2 of WoO 36 races were won from the first 4 rows.

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                          • Highside Hustler25
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 12950

                            #14
                            If the fast qualifiers start up front, then what kind of results do you expect?
                            8/13/16

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14320

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                              If the fast qualifiers start up front, then what kind of results do you expect?
                              It's different conditions, you'd expect some comers and goers when things change.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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