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  • dirtcrazy4u
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 3212

    #16
    You say racers are in control. I would disagree, the wind tunnel bodies could easily be shut down which in turn would save the person paying the bills. You take away grip and you don't need mega HP motors. You limit material choices in the driveshaft also would help , break a shaft and most engines over rev, which can and has been very costly. There are ways to control costs, but if the rules makers don't make any attempt to help the people who pay the bills you will see more teams following suit.

    Racing has been on a self destruction course since the days of cart coming into usac with the billionaire owners wanting to eliminate any chance of a smaller team winning. The same thing has happened in nascrap, woo sprints, NHRA drag racing. The winning teams out spend everyone else 10 fold and it limits there competition.

    Nascar has what, maybe 3 teams that can win on Sunday with there multiple cars. Indy cars has maybe 2 teams that can compete with Penske. Drag racing has John force that at one time was out spending other teams by millions, today at many events they have trouble getting a 16 car field. Indy used to have gurney and foyt built chassis, nascar had cars that you could identify with, these next Gen cars again cost teams millions. Hendrick, Penske, and Gibbs win all the races.

    2 manufacturers win in slm racing on the big stage, horn and rocket, 40 to 60k for a roller. Take grip away and I bet you won't need 1 of there cars to be competitive. Look at crate racing, i hate it, but it keeps these other chassis guys in business. But you let more competition in the guys spending the big dollars are not going to like it.

    MONEY talks, b*ll sh*t walks, right steve francis ? I'm going to get costs under control. What a joke you are.

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    • foxfire2dirtracing
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 2288

      #17
      ^^good perspective

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      • Snake X3
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 1524

        #18
        Originally posted by Pennsboro32 View Post
        All you gotta do is read the latest dirtondirt fast talk, and they'll tell you how DLM racing is flourishing.

        The quote went like this

        "I think DLM racing is the healthiest it has been in a long time, even amid economic challenges we all continue to face." LOL, FN seriously??
        I'm going to guess that quote ended with "Right, Suave?" Maybe they didn't print it, but I bet that is how it actually went.

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        • foxfire2dirtracing
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 2288

          #19
          ^^^
          I was afraid DOD would go to much on the corporate side after Rigsby sold it to Flo. It’s just not the same with him not being as involved with DOD as he use to be.

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          • dirty-white-boy
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 996

            #20
            DropShock wins 4M Post of the Month!

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            • 84wedge
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2020
              • 2088

              #21
              Teh gurus are also ok with the low car counts

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              • dirty-white-boy
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 996

                #22
                Originally posted by dirtcrazy4u View Post
                You say racers are in control. I would disagree, the wind tunnel bodies could easily be shut down which in turn would save the person paying the bills. You take away grip and you don't need mega HP motors. You limit material choices in the driveshaft also would help , break a shaft and most engines over rev, which can and has been very costly. There are ways to control costs, but if the rules makers don't make any attempt to help the people who pay the bills you will see more teams following suit.

                Racing has been on a self destruction course since the days of cart coming into usac with the billionaire owners wanting to eliminate any chance of a smaller team winning. The same thing has happened in nascrap, woo sprints, NHRA drag racing. The winning teams out spend everyone else 10 fold and it limits there competition.

                Nascar has what, maybe 3 teams that can win on Sunday with there multiple cars. Indy cars has maybe 2 teams that can compete with Penske. Drag racing has John force that at one time was out spending other teams by millions, today at many events they have trouble getting a 16 car field. Indy used to have gurney and foyt built chassis, nascar had cars that you could identify with, these next Gen cars again cost teams millions. Hendrick, Penske, and Gibbs win all the races.

                2 manufacturers win in slm racing on the big stage, horn and rocket, 40 to 60k for a roller. Take grip away and I bet you won't need 1 of there cars to be competitive. Look at crate racing, i hate it, but it keeps these other chassis guys in business. But you let more competition in the guys spending the big dollars are not going to like it.

                MONEY talks, b*ll sh*t walks, right steve francis ? I'm going to get costs under control. What a joke you are.
                Some hard truths right there!

                Another thing nobody talks about is that thanks to the power of social media you also see these big teams doing test sessions and burning $1000's in the process to find more speed. Nascar limited testing but all that did was allow those teams with the resources to them into simulation and data acquisition. The cream will always rise to the top in most cases and the big just get bigger.

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                • Raceready
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 4737

                  #23
                  instead of a HURRICANE coming, this time it is going !

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                  • champion24
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 3065

                    #24
                    it's kinda sad the hurricane went out downgraded to a tropical depression! LOL Papich & Lucas gave us a little longer with Earl at least. He may not be done though!

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                    • kidrock
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 16407

                      #25
                      Originally posted by dirtcrazy4u View Post
                      You say racers are in control. I would disagree, the wind tunnel bodies could easily be shut down which in turn would save the person paying the bills. You take away grip and you don't need mega HP motors. You limit material choices in the driveshaft also would help , break a shaft and most engines over rev, which can and has been very costly. There are ways to control costs, but if the rules makers don't make any attempt to help the people who pay the bills you will see more teams following suit.

                      Racing has been on a self destruction course since the days of cart coming into usac with the billionaire owners wanting to eliminate any chance of a smaller team winning. The same thing has happened in nascrap, woo sprints, NHRA drag racing. The winning teams out spend everyone else 10 fold and it limits there competition.

                      Nascar has what, maybe 3 teams that can win on Sunday with there multiple cars. Indy cars has maybe 2 teams that can compete with Penske. Drag racing has John force that at one time was out spending other teams by millions, today at many events they have trouble getting a 16 car field. Indy used to have gurney and foyt built chassis, nascar had cars that you could identify with, these next Gen cars again cost teams millions. Hendrick, Penske, and Gibbs win all the races.

                      2 manufacturers win in slm racing on the big stage, horn and rocket, 40 to 60k for a roller. Take grip away and I bet you won't need 1 of there cars to be competitive. Look at crate racing, i hate it, but it keeps these other chassis guys in business. But you let more competition in the guys spending the big dollars are not going to like it.

                      MONEY talks, b*ll sh*t walks, right steve francis ? I'm going to get costs under control. What a joke you are.
                      Totally agree............................................. .........................

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                      • Henry Every
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2023
                        • 613

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                        Drop Shock, Everything is fine! A bunch of folks showed up at Eldora! /S
                        Nailed it! Outta the park! Mic Drop! Nuff Said...
                        Originally posted by Tireguy17 View Post
                        Let’s be real, whether it’s on the national level or on the local level, racers are in far more control of controlling costs than the sanctioning bodies. Can’t really blame the part manufacturers for creating “low friction” or “lightweight” components when racers are willing to pay for it. Sanctioning bodies have no control over what teams are charged for chassis and components. And I don’t think we want sanctions creating spec parts for teams to use to control costs, that’s a slippery slope to the mess NASCAR is in. /S
                        This guy is just straight up funny, "Racers should just spend less money". Hilarious!! Where do you get such great material?! All I can figure is he's selling radials at Walmart's Auto center.
                        Last edited by Henry Every; 11-28-2023, 04:51 PM.
                        "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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                        • ImCryn2
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 885

                          #27
                          The sanctioning bodies can't cut costs because their income comes in the form of sponsorships from the very people selling parts/ equipment. Same story with the ones reporting on the sport, they sell advertising to the ones selling parts/ equipment. Those sponsors all get their money from the racer. There is not enough money coming in from outside the sport itself, until that changes, it will continue down the same path.
                          A perfect example is Hoosier, the price of a tire includes enough profit to advertise, but why do they even need to advertise when they are the only tire allowed?

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                          • Barbecueboy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 18116

                            #28
                            I’m not sure about you all, but from where I’m watching I’m seeing some great stock v8,street stock, limited and scdra racing etc….if the supers price themselves out of existence racing will keep on racing.

                            As for Epj, not a cooler guy in the pits…..I hope he races as long as he wants too and I think he will.
                            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                            • manwplan
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 351

                              #29
                              I believe a purge has begun and in the long run will be better for the sport once the big money disappears.

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14309

                                #30
                                Originally posted by manwplan View Post
                                I believe a purge has begun and in the long run will be better for the sport once the big money disappears.
                                I agree. Been saying for a while now, it won't get fixed until it's completely wrecked.
                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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