DoD's fast talk about what would improve the sport

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  • 84wedge
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2020
    • 2091

    #1

    DoD's fast talk about what would improve the sport

    Not one of them said anything about the bodies. Fast talk is also brought to you by MD3 and Five Star Race Car Bodies.
  • chathamracefan
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1061

    #2
    Step 1 would be to roll back the body rules about 20 years. Of course probably requires changing the shocks/springs & other technical things for body rule changes to really matter.

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14320

      #3
      Originally posted by chathamracefan View Post
      Step 1 would be to roll back the body rules about 20 years. Of course probably requires changing the shocks/springs & other technical things for body rule changes to really matter.
      That's the beauty of it. Body rules are effective on their own. It's really idiot proof. Nothing else has to be done to matter. Downforce matters
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14320

        #4
        It was the one thing they really needed to hold the line on, but where they have actually been most derelict in their duties. These cars look nothing like 15 years ago, yet they should look the same, if anyone had any understanding and foresight.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • dirtcrazy4u
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 3212

          #5
          Wait for it. Anyone see Steve Francis ? He was going to get all of this under control. One of his sponsors must have been a politician.

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          • 84wedge
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2020
            • 2091

            #6
            They all talk like politicians and the DoD guys always ask questions that are just softballs thrown as gently as possible. White House press secretaries and used car salesman run the sport.

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            • dirtcrazy4u
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 3212

              #7
              The people at WRG and Lucas run slm racing. A tech official is nothing more than a title. Wait, unless there taking a tire sample and that only leads to 1 party saying guilty and the other party saying I didn't do it.

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              • reddyfreddy
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 107

                #8
                Go to DoD and look at the cars in the TBT section at North Ga. in 2001. In my opinion, they are the best looking cars in many years. (I WOULD LEAVE A LINK IF I KNEW HOW) The Ronnie Johnson #20 has beautiful lines.

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                • Oiler
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2021
                  • 236

                  #9
                  ^^ Here's a link to Gary Stuhler's website to his 2000-2001 picture page. Not many drivers keep stuff this old online anymore.

                  Gary, Stuhler, Racing, Dirt, Late, Model
                  "Ain't it good to be alive and raisin' hell in Tennessee!" - Dusty Rhodes (1988)

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                  • Henry Every
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2023
                    • 617

                    #10
                    It all just makes me laugh, no different than Washington. It reminds me of the lead up to the 2008 crash, warnings everywhere but nobody wanted to be the one to stop the party, so over the cliff we went... The number of teams keeps dropping, costs keep rising, but nobody wants to be the adult. Then they start thinking like nascrap and adopting ridiculous formats all while dodging any meaningful or needed changes and/or enforcement. "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him..." Bill Shakespeare
                    "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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                    • MIdlmfan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2020
                      • 174

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Henry Every View Post
                      It all just makes me laugh, no different than Washington. It reminds me of the lead up to the 2008 crash, warnings everywhere but nobody wanted to be the one to stop the party, so over the cliff we went... The number of teams keeps dropping, costs keep rising, but nobody wants to be the adult. Then they start thinking like nascrap and adopting ridiculous formats all while dodging any meaningful or needed changes and/or enforcement. "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him..." Bill Shakespeare
                      when you have a strong field of cars you can take the heat races and draw names out of a hat for starting position and that’s where they will finish … Houston we have a problem … the pictures of Gary Stuhler’s ride is what a SLM should look like!

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                      • klemmabyna
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2065

                        #12
                        "when you have a strong field of cars you can take the heat races and draw names out of a hat for starting position and that’s where they will finish … Houston we have a problem … "

                        and it didn't used to be that way.

                        not saying that racers can't and won't still race. but the big travelling series go too many tracks that do not provide a racing surface that a faster car can move forward. especially with the current body (nose) rules.
                        And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard

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                        • Buford.Justice
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2020
                          • 4981

                          #13
                          Lucas, WOO, and the others bigs, control the LM's now and as long as the stands are full and the streaming services are also bringing in big money, then nothing is going to be done.

                          And the sponcers are plenty also.

                          Would anyone start a new racing Series with rules that actually did away with most of the aero, body width, bent bodies, including the radical nose pieces, and more?

                          I don't think so. They don't have any cars to start with. lol
                          If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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                          • Buford.Justice
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2020
                            • 4981

                            #14
                            Klem the track surfaces are a big part of the problem. That has ruined a lot of potentially great racing.
                            If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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                            • Raceready
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 4737

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Henry Every View Post
                              It all just makes me laugh, no different than Washington. It reminds me of the lead up to the 2008 crash, warnings everywhere but nobody wanted to be the one to stop the party, so over the cliff we went... The number of teams keeps dropping, costs keep rising, but nobody wants to be the adult. Then they start thinking like nascrap and adopting ridiculous formats all while dodging any meaningful or needed changes and/or enforcement. "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him..." Bill Shakespeare
                              Alas; Caveat Emptor !

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