What’s everyone’s thoughts on entry fees for higher paying races?

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  • HoosierDirtFan
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 22186

    #1

    What’s everyone’s thoughts on entry fees for higher paying races?

    Seen a local crate racer here in my region ask this particular question on Facebook and got a bunch of responses.


    What’s everyone’s thoughts on entry fees for higher paying races (Any Division)?

    How much does it need to pay to win / start to feel an entry fee is fair?

    Examples
    Crates: $10K-$20K+ win / $75-$150+ Entry Fee
    Mods: $10K-$20K+ win / $100-$150+ Entry Fee
    Sprints: $5K-$30K+ win / $50-$200+ Entry Fee
    Super LM: $5K-$30K+ win / $50-$20+ Entry Fee
    Stock Cars: $5K-$20K+ win / $50-$150+ Entry Fee
    4 Cylinders: $5K+ win / $50+ Entry Fee

    Entry Fee adjusted based on Payout and the likely hood of attracting cars and fans for that particular payout for any particular division. Fans and or Drivers shouldn't have to bear the full brunt of the cost for show. It's helps when sponsors are willing to help with the cost.
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  • over4T
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 1084

    #2
    As one who has raced in mostly a middling division, currently Pro/Super Stocks, for most of my 60+ year involvement I have always and will always be dead against entry fees for the higher paying races. Jacking up even the pit fees a few bucks is barely acceptable so that a track or organization can act like they're doing a big thing for the racer and fans.

    Probably 95% of the teams lose even more bucks than usual at these events. Longer races, more and better tires and equipment, bigger fuel bills, often 2 nights instead of one at the track and on and on. If a few more bucks for more fans and some more from an event's title sponsor aren't enough to cover the nut then don't have it. Racers are stupid to support some of these shows and are just asking for their year's budget to be depleted even earlier than normal.

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    • latemodelman
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1361

      #3
      I say if its $15,000 to win and $1,000 to start or more you can have a $100 entry fee but let the driver in Free.

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      • TheJet-09
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 1616

        #4
        Has anyone ever been told what an entry fee pays for? Or what that money is supposed to go towards? I ask because, I assume the answer would be something like "registration" which usually takes one person about 2 minutes or so (especially with on-line registration being a popular thing nowadays). So with that in mind, these track workers are apparently getting paid "really well" or they're just taking my money.

        My favorite is when they charge an entry fee that is right at what non-transfer money is...like I'm too dumb to realize I just raced for free.

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        • slmcrewchief99
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 738

          #5
          If you plan to race with these series down south (comp Cams, HTF, MSCCS) you better have a $100 bill with ya. There is always an entry fee down here. Even for a 2k to win race.

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          • LM1
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 328

            #6
            There are no other spectator sports where the performers have to pay to get in.

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            • flagone
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 2861

              #7
              Originally posted by LM1 View Post
              There are no other spectator sports where the performers have to pay to get in.
              There's not?

              Ever been to a rodeo? Particularly on the amateur level.

              What about a drag race? Tech Cards?

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              • fryefan
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 3547

                #8
                I don't know if this has anything to do with it or not, but I would assume it might keep some of the guys that have no chance of making the feature and who spin out a lot from entering.

                That probably has nothing to do with it, but from a spectators point of view, it is not a bad thing.

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                • jog49
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2551

                  #9
                  As far as dirt oval racing is concerned, I have always though the driver should get in free since he/she is the entertainment in an entertainment industry. There should be no entry fee for the race car either as it is also part of the entertainment. Everybody else pays.

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                  • Jking24
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 1512

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheJet-09 View Post
                    Has anyone ever been told what an entry fee pays for? Or what that money is supposed to go towards? I ask because, I assume the answer would be something like "registration" which usually takes one person about 2 minutes or so (especially with on-line registration being a popular thing nowadays). So with that in mind, these track workers are apparently getting paid "really well" or they're just taking my money.My favorite is when they charge an entry fee that is right at what non-transfer money is...like I'm too dumb to realize I just raced for free.
                    Alot of times if the race is sanctioned or run by a particular traveling series the series or sanction gets the entry fee and the track covers the purse. The bottom line for me is if your gonna have a entry fee for a big race the start money better be more than the normal start money and entry fee combined

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                    • Kromulous
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3008

                      #11
                      There are all ready Entry Fee's, there just disguised as Pit Passes, and Sanction Fee's

                      Lucas / Woo, Flo Racing, Dirt on Dirt, all the Race Tracks, Promotors are all a "For Profit" Buisness models. Why on Earth would you want to subsidize there profits?

                      Just say no...

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                      • riddle28
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1084

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LM1 View Post
                        There are no other spectator sports where the performers have to pay to get in.
                        thats not true at all lol

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                        • EvelB7
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 882

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
                          There are all ready Entry Fee's, there just disguised as Pit Passes, and Sanction Fee'sLucas / Woo, Flo Racing, Dirt on Dirt, all the Race Tracks, Promotors are all a "For Profit" Buisness models. Why on Earth would you want to subsidize there profits?
                          Why on Earth? Because I would like a place to race.... No shame in them making money, why on earth would they not want to make a profit? Up to each racer to decide if the 'risk' (paying to enter event) is worth the reward (payout for your finishing position).

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                          • MRM
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2997

                            #14
                            I thought this thread was going to be about a $400 entry fee for a $50k to win race.
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                            • Kromulous
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3008

                              #15
                              Give it time, it will be $500, and a "good" deal...

                              Just say no...

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