Pierce,,,,moran,,,

[TBSprintFan]

I would think if WoO lightened up on the penalties they might be admitting somethings not right otherwise why not stick to your guns? also i know Pierce had over 200 tire tests pass and now one tire...one tire fails a test...doesnt sound like someone who is doping his tires imo

Just cause they take a sample does not mean every sample is sent in to get tested. It's a scare tactic to try to stop drivers from cheating up their tires because you never know when a sample will be sent in to get tested. Could you imagine the cost that a series would incur if every sample from every driver that a sample was taken from would cost.

[Mantis]

^ $400 for each sample based on the recent fines.

[84wedge]

Does anyone here think they would have backtracked on this decision if it was Brent Larson, Boom Briggs and Tony Jackson Jr. that were caught?

[TBSprintFan]

Does anyone here think they would have backtracked on this decision if it was Brent Larson, Boom Briggs and Tony Jackson Jr. that were caught?

Exactly, what makes this look more suspicious is that Bobby's mommy Angie had 2 long rants on Facebook telling fans to contact WRG CEO Brian Carter to complain about the testing process, then removed them within a couple of days of posting them, Jeff Hoker threating WRG of pulling races that he sponsors from the WRG, Bobby saying that he won't follow the tour any longer. And now everything is all happy with everyone, WRG thinks they are saving face by having the so called committee uphold the findings but then reduce the penalties and Bobby's all happy and back on the full WoO tour.

[Highside Hustler25]

I wonder how they would have dealt with it had it been Pierce, Madden and Sheppard instead of Bronson and Moran? Would they have suspended their top 3?

[blncfn57]

Exactly, what makes this look more suspicious is that Bobby's mommy Angie had 2 long rants on Facebook telling fans to contact WRG CEO Brian Carter to complain about the testing process, then removed them within a couple of days of posting them, Jeff Hoker threating WRG of pulling races that he sponsors from the WRG, Bobby saying that he won't follow the tour any longer. And now everything is all happy with everyone, WRG thinks they are saving face by having the so called committee uphold the findings but then reduce the penalties and Bobby's all happy and back on the full WoO tour.

Welcome to business 101! You act like Bobby was the only one getting his suspension lifted.

[TBSprintFan]

Welcome to business 101! You act like Bobby was the only one getting his suspension lifted.

Not acting, just going by facts. I didn't see Moran and Bronson or their families or sponsors attacking WRG and the WoO on social media making threats of not following the series or for fans to contact the series in support of Bobby and to attend events or lose sponsorship of events like Jeff Hoker did.

[Highside Hustler25]

I knew Jeff Hoker sponsored a lot of racers but not to the extent of what I seen last night at Maquoketa. That guy is becoming the next Ed Petroff of dlms in the midwest.

[Barbecueboy]

As hard as woo is trying to unsalt the soup, it ain’t working……the optics here suk, they know it…..and deserve every ounce of fan,sponsor and driver backlash.

Tire rule, lol.

[IL LM Fan]

I didn't see anything about happily back on the tour. There was supposed to be a revised schedule coming out. At least now he can run Farmer City. He'll be about 140 points behind BShep now, so it remains to be seen if he follows the whole tour. They don't seem to be in a hurry to update everyone.

[blncfn57]

Not acting, just going by facts. I didn't see Moran and Bronson or their families or sponsors attacking WRG and the WoO on social media making threats of not following the series or for fans to contact the series in support of Bobby and to attend events or lose sponsorship of events like Jeff Hoker did.

You can start by asking yourself which one of those 3 was losing the most and which one had the stiffest penalties. Bronson & Devin (I don't think) would have missed a race due to their suspensions being 30 days (from date of infraction?) and no races scheduled during that time that they need to run. Pierce got a 4 race suspension, not 30 days, which screwed his season plans.

[84wedge]

Nepotism runs deep in the racing world. At least Bobby is a real racer unlike some billionaires kids whose Dad has to buy a team to get them a ride.

[klemmabyna]

my last call here and it has nothing to do with the appeal or reduced penalty: where did the tires come from?

WoO relied on the lab. lab results can be questioned, but i haven't seen a WoO bulletin changing labs or a lawsuit (this time) challenging the results.

so if i want to be able to say i didn't dope tires, and am being honest, i'm calling out my supplier. Unless maybe i don't want to know (wink,wink) what my supplier does before i get them in my hands. then maybe i'm playing the "that's my story and i'm sticking to it" game.

[blncfn57]

my last call here and it has nothing to do with the appeal or reduced penalty: where did the tires come from?

WoO relied on the lab. lab results can be questioned, but i haven't seen a WoO bulletin changing labs or a lawsuit (this time) challenging the results.

so if i want to be able to say i didn't dope tires, and am being honest, i'm calling out my supplier. Unless maybe i don't want to know (wink,wink) what my supplier does before i get them in my hands. then maybe i'm playing the "that's my story and i'm sticking to it" game.

Bronson has been quiet, but I did hear that Moran said his tires were bought at the track. I would assume most these guys buy them at the track during speed weeks since they go through so many tires while down there. Idk if each track had a different distributor, or if one distributor went to all tracks.
The issue with tires is, unlike other parts you buy, you can't physically see if it's what it's supposed to be when you buy it and they are not sealed and verified by Hoosier for distribution. So how does one know?

[foxfire2dirtracing]

Overton won Friday night at I-75 on American Race Tires. Not sure what he was on last night at Taz?
Would be great to see the purple mafia get some competition from major race teams.