Current Late Model racing is boring and predictable....prove me wrong

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  • lurker
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 3242

    #16
    I’m stuck in the 80’s ---

    Originally posted by play4kps View Post
    I have to be 100% honest, I never thought I would say this, but I fond dirt late model racing today boring. I have flo and dirtvision and I have to be honest, I choose sprint car racing almost every time live when faced with the choice. After the Dream this year, wow, no passing, high limit, ohio sprint speedweek, Usac, and the WOO sprints, its almost a no brainer. And trust me, I 've been a huge dirt late model fan for decades. The sport is in big trouble if they dont make it more exciting.
    I'd agree.

    Below are some of the best years of DLM racing, in my opinion.







    STARS, USAC, NCRA, and ASCoC were great in that time frame as well.
    Last edited by lurker; 06-14-2024, 12:02 AM.

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    • play4kps
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 595

      #17
      Sad, I thought I was more alone on this! Does anyone watch dirttrackker? Justin Pointed out sprint cars don't do testing, Aero has killed the sport. And multi-million dollar car owners, the top heavy purses are also bad, I agree about incentivising winning, but when 7th place is only 9,000 dollars, a race like the Dream is not profitable. Things will never change, because whats wrecking the sport is the corporate sponsors of all the sanctioning groups, and most tracks.

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      • chathamracefan
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1061

        #18
        NASCAR Busch All Star Tour ran for a while in 80’s and early 90’s. It was good in the Midwest.

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        • AllenK
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 776

          #19
          I agree to a certain extent,but did you see the AMS race from Path Valley?
          Formerly 66#1

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          • Tireguy17
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 1163

            #20
            Notice when any late model slides someone. If the 2nd car is within 1 car of the lead car the 2nd car loses the front steering. Aero sucks and open wheel racing (sprints, midgets, modifieds) are a better show because of it.

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            • zyoung25
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 8955

              #21
              Originally posted by play4kps View Post
              Sad, I thought I was more alone on this! Does anyone watch dirttrackker? Justin Pointed out sprint cars don't do testing, Aero has killed the sport.
              IMO testing should banned, but there is no way to police it. The car owners and drivers complain about cost, then go somewhere on a Wednesday night and burn up fuel, 2 sets of tires, and put laps on the engine.

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              • dirty-white-boy
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 997

                #22
                Counting the Dream, Prelims and last 2 Lucas races... one pass for the lead in 5 races and a total of $210,000 in first place money paid out.

                Sprint cars are where its at right now! Late models are so boring!!!! Prove me wrong!

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                • dirty-white-boy
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 997

                  #23
                  Current Late Model racing is boring and predictable....prove me wrong

                  Counting the Dream, Prelims and last 2 Lucas races... one pass for the lead in 5 races and a total of $210,000 in first place money paid out.

                  If u go back further to the Show Me, the 49 led all the laps to a $50k victory....so 6 races and $260k in first place money!!

                  Folks thats 380 laps of racing over 3 tracks with the sports best racers!

                  The heat races are even worse than the mains most nights.

                  Sprint cars are where its at right now! Late models are so boring!!!!

                  Prove me wrong!

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                  • Cleetus Motorsports
                    Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 71

                    #24
                    I have been a racing fan since I was born in 84 basically and I can say right now my interest is at an all time low. Its great that there are all these good paying events but the races completely suck. As you mentioned no passing for the lead, most races are won from the front row. They better figure it out or else people will be losing interest if they haven't already. I feel bad for people like Essex and Mirales who try to make these races sound exciting when they are anything but. I don't know what can be done but hopefully someone with more intelligence then myself can figure it out.

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                    • chathamracefan
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1061

                      #25
                      It could be fixed by rolling the body rules back to 2005 or so. Powers that be don’t want to do that tho. They’d rather keep selling shocks high dollar motors and lots of Hoosiers. The product is extremely stale now. Bullrings still can be good but the big tracks host most all the big events and those are just dull. Eldora has been bad for a few years but the sprint car races there are better than ever. It’s not a track issue. It’s the car.

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                      • t4g2
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1426

                        #26
                        As I said in previous post get rid of invert, signaling, Delaware restarts. The races get good til signaling happens then said driver goes where second place car is to block/ take line away

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                        • reid boys
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 649

                          #27
                          Here's the lead changes for the dream.
                          2020s we have averaged 3 lead changes per race.
                          2010s averages out to 3.2 lead changes per race.
                          2000 average out to 1.67 lead changes per race.
                          1990 average out to 2 lead changes per race.

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                          • Shiny Side Up 18
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2016
                            • 12862

                            #28
                            My interest has absolutely tanked this year. Open wheel and even NASCAR is way more fun right now. WoO/High Limit/NASCAR races feel like EVENTS. I know NASCAR is a cuss word around here, but I've had a ton of fun chasing those events and the Indy 500 the last couple years. The vast majority of LM races lack that big event atmosphere these days. I used to attend upwards of a dozen Summer Nationals races per year, and this year I might hit one. The next dirt race I'm honestly looking forward to is Silver Crown at Terre Haute on July 4th. I'm not even that excited for PDC, which a couple years ago would've been unthinkable for me. LM racing is stagnating quickly.
                            Opinions are my own. Twitter.com/ShinySideUp18

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                            • Dirt Clod
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 528

                              #29
                              Sadly, I'm joining ranks with many on this thread. Got all excited to watch the Dream and what did we see, 100 laps led by one driver. Seems like every dirt late model race I attend there is little passing. Every race won off the front row. The oversize front ends, twisted bodies and dreaded aero is driving me away. Should have gone to the Kokomo XR race instead of the Dream. Here in the Indy area at least we can see USAC races that invert the top 6 in each race. You gotta race your way in. Sad times for dirt late model racing.

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                              • kidrock
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 16427

                                #30
                                I've found myself starting out watching the late models and ending up watching the sprint cars. Until fans stop showing up I highly doubt anything will change unless the drivers start saying something needs to be done. It's pretty sad that the race is won at the beginning of the night during Qualifying. Could you imagine fans getting up after qualifying leaving and saying that was a good race.

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