Late Model Touring Series. Are there to many or should there be less?

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  • HoosierDirtFan
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 22186

    #1

    Late Model Touring Series. Are there to many or should there be less?

    Late Model Touring Series. Are there to many or should there be less?
    Seems like there are a few too many regional tours.



    (Super / Steel Block)
    National
    Flo Racing Night in America Series
    Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series
    World Of Outlaws Late Model Series
    XR Super Series

    Regional

    NORTHEAST / MID-ATLANTIC
    Appalachian Mountain Speedweek
    Steel Block Clash Series
    Steel Block Late Model Series
    United Late Model Series


    MIDWEST
    American Late Model Iron-Man Series
    Cash Money Super Dirt Series
    Dirt Kings Late Model Tour
    High Plains Kansas Super Dirt Series
    Malvern Bank SLMR East Series
    Malver Bank SLMR West Series
    MARS Racing Series
    Northern All-Stars Late Model Series (Upper Midwest)
    Northern Late Model Racing Association (NLRA)
    PRO Late Model Tour (Iowa)
    POWRi Revival Dirt Late Model Series
    Sooner Late Model Series
    Tri-State Late Model Series (Upper Midwest)
    Ultimate Heart of America Super Late Model Series
    UMP DIRTcar Summer Nationals
    Wissota Challenge Series


    SOUTH
    Blue Rick Outlaw Late Model Series
    Carolina Clash Super Late Model Series
    Comp Cams Super Dirt Series
    Hunt The Front Super Dirt Series
    Legends Late Model Series (Arkansas area)
    Mid-East Super Late Model Series
    Mississippi State Championship Challenge Series
    Southern All-Stars Late Model Series
    Southern Clash Late Models
    Southern Nationals
    Southern Nationals (Spring Nationals)
    Southern Thunder Super Dirt Series (New Series for 2025)
    Southern Wedge Late Model Association
    Steel Block Bandits
    Topless Outlaw Dirt Racing Series
    Ultimate Super Late Model Series Southeast


    WEST
    Coors Light I-5 Silver Bullet Series
    DIRTcar Tri-State Late Model Region Tour (Colorado, Nebraska, Wyoming)
    Southwest Dirt Racing Association (SWDRA - Arizona)
    Xtreme Late Model Series (California)


    CRATE TOURS
    American Crate Late Model Series (Texas)
    American All Star Series (South / East)
    Crate Racin' USA 602 Series
    Crate Racin' USA 604 Series
    Crate Racin' USA Winter Shootout Series
    Fastrak Racing Series (Mid-Atlantic)
    GM Performance 602 Series
    Gulf South Crate Racing Association
    Mid-East 602 Crate Late Model Series
    Mid-East 604 Crate Late Model Series
    Mississippi Crate Late Model Racing Series
    Red Clay Series
    RUSH Crate Late Model Series
    United Championship Racing Alliance (UCRA)
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  • cjsracing
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 836

    #2
    Need more, especially in the midwest. I like options to race a lot.

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    • Dirt Clod
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 514

      #3
      Nice research and collection of series. I guess the sponsors, track bookings, car counts, and fan support will determine if there are too many.

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      • jog49
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2551

        #4
        Series come and series go. I don't think it makes much difference. Competition with purses will bode well for drivers/owners in an ever increasing, expensive endeavor. And having choices is always nice.

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        • hardracer32
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 450

          #5
          On the National side, as far as I can tell, we're good. I think it's giving guys in the regions where those tours go more opportunities to race at that level. On the regional side, at least in my area, I think we're getting a little heavy. I want there to be plenty of options for racers and fans but I don't want to see fan and car counts suffer because there aren't enough to go around when we have multiple series racing on the same weekend. But with some of the series, you really can't count them as "compeition" against other series because they do something different. I.e. the steel block tours don't really affect the super tours. The Southern Wedge tour, is very localized and caters to a very specific set of rules unique to that series, so it doesn't detract from any other track or series.

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          • 84wedge
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2020
            • 2086

            #6
            Originally posted by hardracer32 View Post
            The Southern Wedge tour, is very localized and caters to a very specific set of rules unique to that series, so it doesn't detract from any other track or series.
            I just looked these cars up on youtube. Looks like a different rear end, the wheels aren't moving under the car when they hit the gas.

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            • Henry Every
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2023
              • 613

              #7
              Let the "Free Market" decide, that's the American way.(For those who may have forgotten)
              "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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              • mskdorf
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 840

                #8
                I really hope James Essex gets that Northern All Stars series going strong. That was a great series a while back. I believe there is room for more series races in Indiana. Brownstown, Lawrenceburg, Kokomo, Haubstadt, Circle City, and a few more north. We don’t see a bunch of top series in this state. Lots of USAC.
                Scott Kleindorfer

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14303

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 84wedge View Post

                  I just looked these cars up on youtube. Looks like a different rear end, the wheels aren't moving under the car when they hit the gas.
                  Nobody has built a car specifically for that rules package yet. I wish they were a little closer to me, I'd made them upset.

                  They are still running 4 link suspension, z link, or similar. They've made a few rules that they believe forces the cars to race the way you saw.
                  Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 11-22-2024, 06:03 AM.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • weatherman85
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 805

                    #10
                    I think there are way too many here in the south but at least now there is a clear premier regional series with HTF series.

                    I will also add that there are way too many LM classes here in the south.

                    Super Late Model
                    Limited Late Model
                    525 Late Model
                    604 Late Model
                    602 Late Model
                    Chargers (Beginner Late Models)

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                    • Henry Every
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2023
                      • 613

                      #11
                      604/525/Super are all but dead here in NE Georgia, at least weekly. 602 is the default engine in just about everything now, including the water truck and the concession stand grill. Junk motor racing abounds. Most of it is based in the socialist mindset of everyone must be equal, the same guys who never wash their cars or do much of any other work on their cars, so they cry for "equality of engines" everyone must run junk, maybe then they can win without work or expense.
                      Last edited by Henry Every; 11-22-2024, 09:24 AM.
                      "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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                      • 84wedge
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2020
                        • 2086

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post

                        Nobody has built a car specifically for that rules package yet. I wish they were a little closer to me, I'd made them upset.

                        They are still running 4 link suspension, z link, or similar. They've made a few rules that they believe forces the cars to race the way you saw.
                        They look tight tight tight in the corners.

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                        • chathamracefan
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1029

                          #13
                          In midwest, MARS has really done good things last couple years since the Fairbury group took it over. They provide a solid show especially on the nights they run the mods & late models together. They have carved out a setup where most of their shows are on the regular night for that track (mostly Friday or Saturday shows) so it basically gives the locals a beefed up weekly show and a few biggies during the year. Of course anything that Matt Curl is heading up is going to be well organized & thought out.

                          Other than that, the Summernationals has really lost the buzz the last few years IMO. Lots of nights of 2/3 heats, no B main & the feature. Nowhere near what it used to be. The Lincoln IL show this past summer was over barely past sundown. Was an ok show but not worth the $30 at the gate to see 22 cars (several of which were crates). So few tracks run open LM weekly so they aren't adding good cars to the field when summernationals come to town. Of course the $5k to win type of shows don't really bring the cars out like they did 10 plus years ago. SN keeps running out the same show pretty much every year with minimal purse increase & field gets thinner every year.

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