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  • TCmod
    Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 94

    #16
    Originally posted by Henry Every View Post

    That is surprising...

    Curious questions for anybody that might know:
    1. What are the standard LH vs XR1 axle tub lengths?
    2. And, what are the standard j-bar lengths LH vs XR1?
    3. Is the RR shock/spring angle adjustable on either LH/XR1 or both?
    1.Same RR tube on both. LR on a Rocket is 1" shorter but they run a 1/2" wheelspacer standard. So 1/2" shorter on XR1 when race ready.

    2. Rocket is 20 5/8" J bar with a 3 1/2" offset pinion plate LH is 21ish" with a 4" offset pinion plate.

    3. Both cars have adjustable shock angles.

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14320

      #17
      Originally posted by TCmod View Post

      1.Same RR tube on both. LR on a Rocket is 1" shorter but they run a 1/2" wheelspacer standard. So 1/2" shorter on XR1 when race ready.

      2. Rocket is 20 5/8" J bar with a 3 1/2" offset pinion plate LH is 21ish" with a 4" offset pinion plate.

      3. Both cars have adjustable shock angles.
      Did Rocket shorten their rr tube since the xr1 debut? I know some teams did. I thought the rr tube was 1" longer back then?
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • Henry Every
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2023
        • 617

        #18
        Originally posted by TCmod View Post

        1.Same RR tube on both. LR on a Rocket is 1" shorter but they run a 1/2" wheelspacer standard. So 1/2" shorter on XR1 when race ready.

        2. Rocket is 20 5/8" J bar with a 3 1/2" offset pinion plate LH is 21ish" with a 4" offset pinion plate.

        3. Both cars have adjustable shock angles.
        Thank you. When you say offset pinion plate, do you mean ie, 3/1/2 to the right vs 4 inch to the right?
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        • Josh Bayko
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 8749

          #19
          No amount of chassis changing is going to make Boom’s team any better.
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          • Jking24
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 1514

            #20
            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post

            Did Rocket shorten their rr tube since the xr1 debut? I know some teams did. I thought the rr tube was 1" longer back then?
            No the only thing that changed was the lr spacer. They shortened the lr tube a few years before the xr but would typically run a 1" spacer standard. The xr has a 1/2" spacer standard

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14320

              #21
              Originally posted by Jking24 View Post

              No the only thing that changed was the lr spacer. They shortened the lr tube a few years before the xr but would typically run a 1" spacer standard. The xr has a 1/2" spacer standard
              Ok. I thought horn had 35" rr axle. Thanks
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              • zyoung25
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 8955

                #22
                Longhorn is on the spoiler at FC practice tonight for tmac

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                • Snake X3
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 1529

                  #23
                  Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
                  Longhorn is on the spoiler at FC practice tonight for tmac
                  Thanks for the confirmation, man.

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                  • 84wedge
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2020
                    • 2091

                    #24
                    He got a 19th and 21st this weekend.

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                    • BTExpress
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 1212

                      #25
                      There you go... it was definitely the chassis for TMac. Glad he figured it out before the season got further along and I am a TMac fan.

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                      • Josh Bayko
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 8749

                        #26
                        Originally posted by 84wedge View Post
                        He got a 19th and 21st this weekend.
                        He’s washed. He around just go back to modifieds at this point.
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                        • Henry Every
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2023
                          • 617

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post

                          He’s washed. He around just go back to modifieds at this point.
                          Hilarious. Sadly there are those that base their decisions on such a small sampling of data. I think a lot of these guys that are "Hit & Miss" may not be following the setup procedure to the letter. These modern DLM's and their setups are so sensitive and so interdependent that the slightest thing off and you're lost in the tall grass looking like a fool. Was this car that Tmac was running new and/or who set it up? Could be bad setup habits within the team, just like CBR(Clint Bowyer Racing) They made several good drivers look mediocre, except when Barry Wright was in house taking care of the setups. All I'm saying is the team Tmac is with may have some bad/erroneous setup habits procedures holding them back. I think this is why you see some guys switch or just pick up a new car that setup at factory and for a few weeks they look stellar. Then something happens and that speed just disappears... Just My Observations.
                          Last edited by Henry Every; 04-14-2025, 09:26 AM.
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                          • Highside Hustler25
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 12950

                            #28
                            I'm assuming J.B. forgot the sarcasm symbol.
                            8/13/16

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                            • Josh Bayko
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 8749

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Henry Every View Post

                              Hilarious. Sadly there are those that base their decisions on such a small sampling of data. I think a lot of these guys that are "Hit & Miss" may not be following the setup procedure to the letter. These modern DLM's and their setups are so sensitive and so interdependent that the slightest thing off and you're lost in the tall grass looking like a fool. Was this car that Tmac was running new and/or who set it up? Could be bad setup habits within the team, just like CBR(Clint Bowyer Racing) They made several good drivers look mediocre, except when Barry Wright was in house taking care of the setups. All I'm saying is the team Tmac is with may have some bad/erroneous setup habits procedures holding them back. I think this is why you see some guys switch or just pick up a new car that setup at factory and for a few weeks they look stellar. Then something happens and that speed just disappears... Just My Observations.
                              Boom is washed too.

                              Neither party in this arrangement is willing to put in the work to get better. Testing is how you get better, and they simply don’t do that.


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                              • Henry Every
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2023
                                • 617

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post

                                Boom is washed too.

                                Neither party in this arrangement is willing to put in the work to get better. Testing is how you get better, and they simply don’t do that.

                                I think your probably right. Its a shame, so much money spent just to ride around and then drink beer... I've been with teams like that, I didn't stay long. For me its a serious devotion, if nobody else is, then I'm not gonna waste my time on it.
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