Hoosier releases new RR tire for LM racing, and it's even wider.

[Henry Every]

If adding a bunch of toe out makes your car faster, that's another sign the geometry is not good.

Precisely. If the front isn't working "efficiently"(it gets to the corner first) then you have to then make changes to the setup to offset that short coming. So you keep making changes(compromises) to try an get the rear of the car to do more to steer the car. As long as the front end isn't getting the job done the rest of the car is forced to compensate and subsequently you never get the balance you need.

[KTMLew]

Precisely. If the front isn't working "efficiently"(it gets to the corner first) then you have to then make changes to the setup to offset that short coming. So you keep making changes(compromises) to try an get the rear of the car to do more to steer the car. As long as the front end isn't getting the job done the rest of the car is forced to compensate and subsequently you never get the balance you need.

For me, RTJ doesn't steer his way around the track as much as he has complete confidence in his ability to catch the car and get forward drive to avoid spinning out. He throws the car in massively like a Sprint car then chases it around/off the corner. Bloomer drove his cars. RTJ (currently one of the best) just slings the car sideways (I suppose Pierce does too) and catches it. Completely opposite of what Bloomer/McDowell/Erbe Jr do. While they set their car it's not nearly as aggressive.

Does that make sense? He doesn't really depend on the whole front end biting. Just steers with RF after pitching it. He makes sure the car is bent enough to get pointed off the corner.

[84wedge]

Now there's a new compound for the RR, the NLMT 2.5

[manwplan]

In midst of DoD writing endless Hoosier slurp articles, are we going to talk about all the new RR's that went flat at Tazwell while Terbo had the old tire on?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Now there's a new compound for the RR, the NLMT 2.5

They released that last year, in the old style. Didn't seem to get much acceptance, from what I've seen, as far as being allowed in rules

[84wedge]

They released that last year, in the old style. Didn't seem to get much acceptance, from what I've seen, as far as being allowed in rules

DoD made it sound like it was a new tire.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

DoD made it sound like it was a new tire.

You are right. It was the 2.25 they added last year that nobody used. All the tires are slowly coming back, that got eliminated when the 1,2,3,4 came out.

[flagone]

In midst of DoD writing endless Hoosier slurp articles, are we going to talk about all the new RR's that went flat at Tazwell while Terbo had the old tire on?

Should probably talk about them digging a piece of debris out of the track under yellow which I was told happened. The 2 that I spoke with were cut down. We had 4 RRs blowout all due to wear. 2 were new construction and 2 were old construction.

[blncfn57]

Should probably talk about them digging a piece of debris out of the track under yellow which I was told happened. The 2 that I spoke with were cut down. We had 4 RRs blowout all due to wear. 2 were new construction and 2 were old construction.

Or we could talk about the fact that this NLMT deal was supposed to put an end to having so many tires for the teams to manage. Once again, a sensible rule is being perverted for the sake of the dollar.

[Pennsboro32]

Or we could talk about the fact that this NLMT deal was supposed to put an end to having so many tires for the teams to manage. Once again, a sensible rule is being perverted for the sake of the dollar.

Preach it. They won’t listen tho.

[over4T]

Back in the late '80s-early '90s when we had dozens of Late Model tracks in northern California & Nevada the tire rule was, basically, any 11" tire. Teams were going broke with tire bills. McCreary was the main thing then and the moneyed guys were running 0 & 1s which were bald after one night at a weekly show that paid, maybe $500. Finally after a lot of arguing got everybody on an EC2 and the rich teams only b!tched for a couple of weeks until they found they were getting 3-6 nights on them. We were all on them, they were decent and the tire bills dropped dramatically, racing was closer and it made happier racers. During this time I was at, what I consider, the GOAT's shop in Batesville and they had something like 225 mounted tires of every make and model. We both thought that that was nuts, and I still do.

[84wedge]

According to Overton the new tire makes no difference.

[Jking24]

You are right. It was the 2.25 they added last year that nobody used. All the tires are slowly coming back, that got eliminated when the 1,2,3,4 came out.

The 2.25 is a 1325 witch was the tire of choice in the mid Atlantic / northeast region. It is used at all the local tracks in that area just not on the national tours. It was released to combat the influx of the American racers in that region because their 48 was equivalent to a 1325. The 2.5 is a 1350 witch is the tire of choice in the southeast also released to compete with ar. The problem with the 2.25 when initially released was it was still in the lm/nlmt sidewall/ width configuration so while the compound was correct it still struggled to compete with the ar because they are still their original open comp construction witch was more similar to the previously made nrm hoosiers. They have basically went back to the open competition nrm right rear tire it is just preblocked now. Also it's funny that they say its wider. While the treadwith may technically be wider the actual tire when mounted on a wheel is narrower overall by over a 1/2 inch

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

The 2.25 is a 1325 witch was the tire of choice in the mid Atlantic / northeast region. It is used at all the local tracks in that area just not on the national tours. It was released to combat the influx of the American racers in that region because their 48 was equivalent to a 1325. The 2.5 is a 1350 witch is the tire of choice in the southeast also released to compete with ar. The problem with the 2.25 when initially released was it was still in the lm/nlmt sidewall/ width configuration so while the compound was correct it still struggled to compete with the ar because they are still their original open comp construction witch was more similar to the previously made nrm hoosiers. They have basically went back to the open competition nrm right rear tire it is just preblocked now. Also it's funny that they say its wider. While the treadwith may technically be wider the actual tire when mounted on a wheel is narrower overall by over a 1/2 inch

Yes, it's all about the AR competition. Bring back the white dots. Lol. 1350 was a good tire for my area as well.