Droop

[TBSprintFan]

I never will claim to be a expert in Late Model Racing but how does one driver fail droop last year at the Show Me 100 only drop 4 positions for failing droop and now this year Davenport goes from 2nd to 25th for failing droop?

[fryefan]

Just a guess, but it may have to do with how far off the measurement is

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

It's how or how much you fail by. Deck too high is so many positions versus how far off you are. Chain not tight is DQ.

[KTMLew]

It's how or how much you fail by. Deck too high is so many positions versus how far off you are. Chain not tight is DQ.

He said a bolt backed out of the tube/bell which then set on the underslung. That kept the chain from getting tight. Kind of a chicken-chit deal but guess rulez are rulez.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

He said a bolt backed out of the tube/bell which then set on the underslung. That kept the chain from getting tight. Kind of a chicken-chit deal but guess rulez are rulez.

Another ugly part of the droop rule. There was a no name guy who made a show at East Bay several years back and got the DQ instead because his chain wasn't tight.

[84wedge]

What a strange couple days. Half the field gets wrecked by a garbage track, Sheppard inherits the lead for his first win, Davenport gets the points lead. Next day Shep starts on the front row and goes backwards, Davenport fails post race tech and RTJ is back in the lead.

[zyoung25]

Another ugly part of the droop rule. There was a no name guy who made a show at East Bay several years back and got the DQ instead because his chain wasn't tight.

Dale Hollidge was the guy if I remember right

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

What a strange couple days. Half the field gets wrecked by a garbage track, Sheppard inherits the lead for his first win, Davenport gets the points lead. Next day Shep starts on the front row and goes backwards, Davenport fails post race tech and RTJ is back in the lead.

Brandon Sheppard led lap 5 at atomic. I don't feel like he inherited anything. Furthermore, his best lap was 2 tenths better than anyone else's.

[TBSprintFan]

It's how or how much you fail by. Deck too high is so many positions versus how far off you are. Chain not tight is DQ.

Thanks for the explanation.

[KTMLew]

https://www.floracing.com/articles/14368488-jonathan-davenport-takes-hit-with-droop-penalty-at-muskingum-county

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Dale Hollidge was the guy if I remember right

That sounds familiar. In any event, he wasn't cheating anyone and put together a good enough heat race to be rewarded with a feature start at East Bay. The rule denied him, however.

[Henry Every]

I get what they are trying to do with the "droop" rule, but I'm less inclined to be in favor of it.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I get what they are trying to do with the "droop" rule, but I'm less inclined to be in favor of it.

Here's the problem.

1) It's pretty ineffective in keeping the deck down. Even compared to pre droop check.
2) it's easy to fail while hurting your race car. Changes to every other corner affect how it measures out, yet don't change the on track height.
3) it's not really been articulated well on the real goal of the rule. It's only managed to make them look like they are doing something. Do they care about aero load? Was someone crying because their deck was lower on the track? Do you actually think it saved people from rolling?

[Henry Every]

Here's the problem.

1) It's pretty ineffective in keeping the deck down. Even compared to pre droop check.
2) it's easy to fail while hurting your race car. Changes to every other corner affect how it measures out, yet don't change the on track height.
3) it's not really been articulated well on the real goal of the rule. It's only managed to make them look like they are doing something. Do they care about aero load? Was someone crying because their deck was lower on the track? Do you actually think it saved people from rolling?

Way back when it was my understanding it was meant to help keep cars from getting upside down so much, but like you said the "On track" height doesnt look much different than pre-droop times. All that seems to have been accomplished is greater setup complexity and the possibility of accidentally ruining your night with a DQ or a rough track shaking something loose and doing the same. Meanwhile cars still randomly flip... Oh how I miss the "pre-hook" era,

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Way back when it was my understanding it was meant to help keep cars from getting upside down so much, but like you said the "On track" height doesnt look much different than pre-droop times. All that seems to have been accomplished is greater setup complexity and the possibility of accidentally ruining your night with a DQ or a rough track shaking something loose and doing the same. Meanwhile cars still randomly flip... Oh how I miss the "pre-hook" era,

I think it was Shuman who sold the on-track deck height angle. I know I read it from one official. The original origin of doing something different goes all the way back to guys constantly failing static deck height because they were running soft LR and rf setups, 15 years ago. If it isn't about on track height, just make guys figure how to pass.