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  • 4wide
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2020
    • 161

    #1

    Htf

    Not joining JCM next year and may lose Kubota.
  • Henry Every
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2023
    • 613

    #2
    Originally posted by 4wide View Post
    Not joining JCM next year and may lose Kubota.
    Strange turn of events...
    "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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    • dirty-white-boy
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 996

      #3
      Where was this news at?

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      • KTMLew
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1164

        #4
        Originally posted by dirty-white-boy View Post
        Where was this news at?
        My guess would be their Patreon. I quit following it so don't know. Just follow their Facebook page for info. The Kubota deal never really panned out for Kubota IMO. Next to no race results. If they can't win a race in their own series...Yikes! Some seem to think I'm blind to their ineptitude. I'm not. I do think it's the best DLM channel on YouTube. But that's a low bar. If they don't pick-up another big sponsor, might we see a major downsizing?

        Guess we'll see come January or so.

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        • hoosier race fan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 716

          #5
          Originally posted by KTMLew View Post

          My guess would be their Patreon. I quit following it so don't know. Just follow their Facebook page for info. The Kubota deal never really panned out for Kubota IMO. Next to no race results. If they can't win a race in their own series...Yikes! Some seem to think I'm blind to their ineptitude. I'm not. I do think it's the best DLM channel on YouTube. But that's a low bar. If they don't pick-up another big sponsor, might we see a major downsizing?

          Guess we'll see come January or so.
          With the audience they reach on YouTube and social media, they will find partners to support their program and keep it going. It just may not be the same as it has been with Kubota funding. Maybe they dial it back to only running HTF series events and some local shows with the crate engine or the modified. The trips to Eldora and the Midwest help them with merchandise sales so that would be tough to give up. It could also be no change at all if they get enough financial backing. Buy another hauler and hit the road like they have been. The bigger concern in my opinion would be whether they can keep a knowledgeable crew chief around. They seem to have some decent help this year and Taylon Center doesn’t sugar coat it when Joseph is not driving well. I enjoy watching them, especially when they run well, and hope they can have consistently good finishes in the future.

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          • KTMLew
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1164

            #6
            Originally posted by hoosier race fan View Post
            With the audience they reach on YouTube and social media, they will find partners to support their program and keep it going. It just may not be the same as it has been with Kubota funding. Maybe they dial it back to only running HTF series events and some local shows with the crate engine or the modified. The trips to Eldora and the Midwest help them with merchandise sales so that would be tough to give up. It could also be no change at all if they get enough financial backing. Buy another hauler and hit the road like they have been. The bigger concern in my opinion would be whether they can keep a knowledgeable crew chief around. They seem to have some decent help this year and Taylon Center doesn’t sugar coat it when Joseph is not driving well. I enjoy watching them, especially when they run well, and hope they can have consistently good finishes in the future.
            So many people don't understand sarcasm and just messing with your co-worker/friend. See lot of comments about TC not wanting to be on camera. He knew full well what he was getting into. He's having fun. But does that pay the bills? We shall see soon enough. I wish them well.

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            • Kromulous
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3008

              #7
              Ive always been astounded by the ridicule about their results, its really rediculous. Ive always thought Joseph was a decent Driver, and always wanted to seem them do well.

              If anything you can see just how hard it is to Win at the Top Levels, and you should be able to slightly understand why guys like Bloomquist. Moyer are considered Legends in SLM Racing. Guys like them dont come along everyday.

              Racing in general is a rough game, talent and money wise.

              I never did like the feel of the JCM thing, Joespeh is not ready for that, full time Touring. They need to stay in their lane awhile.


              Just say no...

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              • Henry Every
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 613

                #8
                The best thing they did for themselves was running the "Hell tour", they improved immensely after that. I don't follow them anymore like I once did, but I saw improvement. I think the JCM thing would've been great for Joseph, but I think that would leave HTF out in the cold, thats my opinion. It really depends on what they want as a group, if staying together is the goal then not doing JCM makes sense. If Joseph wants to reach his full potential as a driver/racer I think he would've been better served going with JCM, alone.
                "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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                • KTMLew
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1164

                  #9
                  On their Facebook just announced be running The Dome in the Kubota # 10. Maybe they renewed the deal?

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                  • Josh Bayko
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 8734

                    #10
                    Being on YouTube doesn’t mean he’s a good driver. He’s a decent weekly runner. It’s just a shame there’s no weekly tracks for him to run in his part of the world.
                    Follow me on Twitter: @JoshBayko

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                    • Jking24
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 1512

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                      Being on YouTube doesn’t mean he’s a good driver. He’s a decent weekly runner. It’s just a shame there’s no weekly tracks for him to run in his part of the world.
                      I would disagree he's clearly elevated himself above a weekly driver. He had very good showings in the jcm car especially considering he has never seen most of the tracks. Also he has been steady gaining at eldora. People think because they have a little bit of money behind them now that that is the reason he's running better. The only thing the money did was give him the opportunity to be their. Im not a htf guy but Joseph has proven he has the capability to be better if given the opportunity and time.

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                      • riddle28
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1084

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                        Being on YouTube doesn’t mean he’s a good driver. He’s a decent weekly runner. It’s just a shame there’s no weekly tracks for him to run in his part of the world.
                        winning multiple 5 figure races is a good weekly racer? what a silly statement. Theres plenty of guys i dont like but i dont ignore their stats saying they know how to win

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                        • Top Row Analyst
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2024
                          • 130

                          #13
                          It will be interesting to see what happens with HTF for 2026. They skipped the National 100--a race close to them and one that helped put them on the map the year he got handed the $15k victory after Hiett and Martin took each other out. He did have to be running 3rd to get that gift so I credit him for that. You would think with the money on the line this weekend, Joey would be at a track he's traditionally done well at.
                          Unfortunately, YouTube views are way down with most videos seeing about 30k-ish views after a few weeks. This is less than half of their peak numbers. You have to wonder if Jesse Enterkin was part of that.

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                          • hoosier race fan
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 716

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Top Row Analyst View Post
                            It will be interesting to see what happens with HTF for 2026. They skipped the National 100--a race close to them and one that helped put them on the map the year he got handed the $15k victory after Hiett and Martin took each other out. He did have to be running 3rd to get that gift so I credit him for that. You would think with the money on the line this weekend, Joey would be at a track he's traditionally done well at.
                            Unfortunately, YouTube views are way down with most videos seeing about 30k-ish views after a few weeks. This is less than half of their peak numbers. You have to wonder if Jesse Enterkin was part of that.
                            HTF didn’t go to the National 100 due to some hard feelings between Joshua/HTF Series and the EAMS promoter. Joshua posted something about it on Facebook, and Jonathan replied with details. They were not going to go race and support an event with that promoter.

                            Jesse was definitely the entertainment of the channel and I think plenty of fans tuned in to see him race just as much as they wanted to see Joseph race. They also don’t seem to show as much of their work in the shop as they did when they had the cars at Jonathan’s house. I enjoyed watching them build up their operation to a competitive super late model. It’s not as fun now that they are trying to stay at that level, and I bet they would tell you it is not as much fun for them as it was in the past when they were building up also.

                            Occasionally one of the Joiners or crew members will say something about reading the comments on their videos, which are usually a mix of positive/supportive and negative/critical. They seem to take pride in not listening to any suggestions or advice, and I get that there is a lot of nonsense, but they were almost defiant about the possibility of hiring a crew chief. When they finally gave in and (sort of) hired a crew chief with Taylon as a consultant this year, their performance improved. They might not have won more races this season, but they went from struggling to make a lot of shows to running better and more consistently. I get that reading comments can rot your brain, but there are occasionally good ideas suggested, and no race team has all the answers.

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                            • 4wide
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2020
                              • 161

                              #15
                              Dirt tracker daily just aired this story.

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