Best 25-30 year career?

[Dante Toledo, OH]

And if you dig, most of these top drivers have skeletons. Maybe not the drugs, but the cheating yes.

Yes i dig. I know he is great. Probably the best ever. I also am well aware that he is not the only guy to ever cheat or get caught cheating. I don't even care about the drug bs. Everyone was young once. I just don't like the way he acts, or talks. The whole i am just smarter than everyone attitude. He comes off as the opposite of humble. Kinda like an older Kyle Busch. I never said you shouldn't love him. I was just giving my opinion on a opinion based fourm. Ya dig?

[CIRF]

Lol. I have enough respect for you that I know ya like to poke fun at Bloomer over the blow. My thing is, I actually believe his story behind what happened. And if people knew the amount, it's quite laughable. Doesn't make it right, but it's nuts.

I could find nothing on his older personal life. We'll have to wait on his tell all book. The only reason Moyer came up is because someone wanted to cast him as a Saint, which he is not. Just like 99% of humans.

I think if you asked him now, he'd say taking that sway bar off was the stupidest thing he coulda done. And no doubt, he blew a$$. Completely over thunk it. His career in a late model though is nothing to poke fun at.

I've never seen or heard of him acting in a way that other drivers haven't. Anything that would stick out to say at least in the past he was crazy high. Now Tyler Walker(shame), A.J Fike I think it is?, yes for sure.

Rest assured respect is mutual cnbf. And you're correct in that I kinda' get a kick outa' playin' the dope card and lack of success in other forms of racing now and again. I commend you for not taking it personally as if snort is your twin brother, or something like that.

Snort portray's himself in a fashion that completely lacks any hint of humility and any kind of levity in regards to how he illustrates himself. As you said, we all have character flaws but if he's going to retain that type of attitude then there is going to be plenty of blow (no pun intended) back. If he, or his fans, don't like the blow back then don't do that line of blow or venture into other forms of racing and suck really bad doing it.

Did anyone mention the Chili Bowl fiasco, or the less than flattering ARCA experience at Springfield? LOL!! Something can be said for the school of thought that leans towards the good possibility that snort possibly isn't all that good when he ventures out of a dirt late or dirt mod. That said, there is no particular disgrace in not being all that good outside of your comfort zone.

cnbf, I think you're referring to Aaron Fike who is the brother of A.J. The last report I heard is that Aaron Fike has been clean and sober for several years now. There are others who have tainted their legacy and then redeemed themselves. Shane Hmiel comes to mind. Shane admitted he'd done something very wrong and was contrite and repentant and won the adulation of all. Snort, on the other hand, has always acted as if he'd done absolutely nothing wrong and contrition is a word not in snort's vocabulary, let alone in his psyche.

[IN THE KNOW]

I just don't see a drug bust and cheating on a spouse being equal. You can go to jail for one of them. I believe that the drug bust did affect his career as he couldn't even leave the State to race anywhere as it remains to seen if allegedly cheating a spouse has had a affect on the others career. I will say if that drug bust benefited anyone it was Moyer because Scott was one less guy standing in the way of the Hav-a-tampa championship!

[JMill99m]

Kevin weaver kicks off his 30th year of racing this year

[CIRF]

Kevin weaver kicks off his 30th year of racing this year

Over the years Kevin Weaver was fast enough to win the World Hundred more than once and something seemed always to go slightly wrong. For many years Kevin Weaver was/is a force to be reckoned with in Central Illinois and elsewhere. Always has driven clean and from what has been publicized he appears to have conducted his life on and off the racetrack with class and dignity befitting his reputation.

[Barbecueboy]

I just don't see a drug bust and cheating on a spouse being equal. You can go to jail for one of them. I believe that the drug bust did affect his career as he couldn't even leave the State to race anywhere as it remains to seen if allegedly cheating a spouse has had a affect on the others career. I will say if that drug bust benefited anyone it was Moyer because Scott was one less guy standing in the way of the Hav-a-tampa championship!

Scott himself will tell you that ( although at the time it didn't appear so) , that the drug bust was probably the thing that made him the person he is at peace with in himself today.

Young rock star dirt late model driver.......women throwing themselves at him....access to any and all drugs of his choice.......how many of us would have done the exact same things he was doing in that situation.
And be honest with yourselves......

Had he not been caught He could have very easily made some even more bad choices back then and it's doubtful we would even remember who he is today had he not straightened his personal life out back then.

People change.....people grow up.

How many of us ALL did stupid things that we regretted when we were young.......SOME OF US LEARNED FROM OUR MISTAKES, OTHERS ARE STILL MAKING THE SAME ONES AT AN ADVANCED AGE.

SCOTT LEARNED , CHANGED AND BECAME ONE OF THE GREATEST DIRT TRACK FIGURES IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT.

[CIRF]

Hey BBQB, that is one glowing testimonial my friend! LOL!!

Rock star?

This bit of news was included in the rundown of one of the preliminary nights of the 2002 Chili Bowl.

"Scott Bloomquist in his Chili Bowl debut struggled, including jumping the cushion in the first turn on the first lap and coming to a stop in his heat race". However, in snort's defense he did finish 2 spots in front of Justin Allgaier and look where he's at these days.

To be considered one the "greatest dirt track figures in the history of the sport" shouldn't ya' be able to advance to the B-main after starting towards the front of the C-main?

Not sayin, just sayin'.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Yes i dig. I know he is great. Probably the best ever. I also am well aware that he is not the only guy to ever cheat or get caught cheating. I don't even care about the drug bs. Everyone was young once. I just don't like the way he acts, or talks. The whole i am just smarter than everyone attitude. He comes off as the opposite of humble. Kinda like an older Kyle Busch. I never said you shouldn't love him. I was just giving my opinion on a opinion based fourm. Ya dig?

And I didn't say you were wrong or anything of the sort. And love is a little strong, I like him, I certainly don't love him. You gave your opinion, I gave mine. Fully aware of 4m being opinion based. Been here for a long time. No need to be kinda sh!tty about it.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I just don't see a drug bust and cheating on a spouse being equal. You can go to jail for one of them. I believe that the drug bust did affect his career as he couldn't even leave the State to race anywhere as it remains to seen if allegedly cheating a spouse has had a affect on the others career. I will say if that drug bust benefited anyone it was Moyer because Scott was one less guy standing in the way of the Hav-a-tampa championship!

While you do have a point, to be married for a very long time and then piss it away, it ranks real high for me. It was 2.7 grams, less than an eighth of an ounce. And yes, if you are in possession, you should go to jail. And no an adulter should not. There are many things that get no jail sentence or very little, that are much worse than a couple grams of blow. Wether he learned his lesson or not, I really don't know.

His story is that he wasn't doing it, it was for some chick, and she set him up to get outta some trouble of her own. And it was election time in Tennessee. Really, take it for what it's worth. Until he quits racing and releases a tell all book, doubt we'll ever know. And even then may not.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Rest assured respect is mutual cnbf. And you're correct in that I kinda' get a kick outa' playin' the dope card and lack of success in other forms of racing now and again. I commend you for not taking it personally as if snort is your twin brother, or something like that.

Snort portray's himself in a fashion that completely lacks any hint of humility and any kind of levity in regards to how he illustrates himself. As you said, we all have character flaws but if he's going to retain that type of attitude then there is going to be plenty of blow (no pun intended) back. If he, or his fans, don't like the blow back then don't do that line of blow or venture into other forms of racing and suck really bad doing it.

Did anyone mention the Chili Bowl fiasco, or the less than flattering ARCA experience at Springfield? LOL!! Something can be said for the school of thought that leans towards the good possibility that snort possibly isn't all that good when he ventures out of a dirt late or dirt mod. That said, there is no particular disgrace in not being all that good outside of your comfort zone.

cnbf, I think you're referring to Aaron Fike who is the brother of A.J. The last report I heard is that Aaron Fike has been clean and sober for several years now. There are others who have tainted their legacy and then redeemed themselves. Shane Hmiel comes to mind. Shane admitted he'd done something very wrong and was contrite and repentant and won the adulation of all. Snort, on the other hand, has always acted as if he'd done absolutely nothing wrong and contrition is a word not in snort's vocabulary, let alone in his psyche.

That's who I meant. He got nailed at Kings Island, an amusement park here in Ohio.

And I agree he can be obnoxious and (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)y. I was somene who disliked him to for them reasons. But since his marriage and second daughter, I think he's melliwed out some. He has admitted screwing up and will give props to tracks and that now. The guy that started this thread I think, Eric, tells a cool story of what happened when he wrote Scott. And there's plenty more stories of him doing similar things. I don't think he's an all around ahole, just (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)y and to the point. He's always told the same story on the blow and it is believable. Doesn't mean it's true, but I can see that happening. Especially to someone who doesn't quite fit in to Tennessee in the first place.

And Shane Hmiel is a dam disgrace. Had turned his life around, was doing well, and then that wreck.

[Barbecueboy]

Hey BBQB, that is one glowing testimonial my friend! LOL!!

Rock star?

This bit of news was included in the rundown of one of the preliminary nights of the 2002 Chili Bowl.

"Scott Bloomquist in his Chili Bowl debut struggled, including jumping the cushion in the first turn on the first lap and coming to a stop in his heat race". However, in snort's defense he did finish 2 spots in front of Justin Allgaier and look where he's at these days.

To be considered one the "greatest dirt track figures in the history of the sport" shouldn't ya' be able to advance to the B-main after starting towards the front of the C-main?

Not sayin, just sayin'.

Have any of the other names everybody is tossing around out there ever run or done well in the chili bowl?? ( Moyer, Simmons, purvis etc.)

I'm asking because I really don't know.....

I mean if we are talking about all forms of dirt racing , I would have to believe we throw in Brett Hearn,barefoot bob,swindell,kinser,lee petty,tiny lund,junior Johnson,buck baker etc. Etc.

Just don't think it's fair to throw a moral clause into this BEST CAREER equation......

One of the best , slickest all out RACE CAR drivers ever to strap into anything WAS A GREAT GUY ,BUT when it came to partying hard had the moral compass of a tree stump..............TIM RICHMOND.

[ride height]

Purvis was good but can't be included in the 25-30 year career not even close

Duval good as well can be included in the 25-30 year career but just doesnt have the big wins like Moyer and Bloomer I know he won the World jut not in the same class as the other 2

Purvis was the best I ever saw. Cant include in the 25-30, but he put on the biggest beatdown I ever saw at a loaded field of cars on the big 5/8 Tri City speedway back in the late 80's. He lapped everybody .....most 2 times, and im not talking a bunch of scrubs. All the big boys were there. Drivers literally sat on the door sills of their cars afterwords in the pits, looking at each other like WTF just happened out there? It was an awesome display of skill. High. Low. Middle. He never bobbled once in 50 laps.

[CIRF]

Have any of the other names everybody is tossing around out there ever run or done well in the chili bowl?? ( Moyer, Simmons, purvis etc.)

I'm asking because I really don't know.....

I mean if we are talking about all forms of dirt racing , I would have to believe we throw in Brett Hearn,barefoot bob,swindell,kinser,lee petty,tiny lund,junior Johnson,buck baker etc. Etc.

Just don't think it's fair to throw a moral clause into this BEST CAREER equation......

One of the best , slickest all out RACE CAR drivers ever to strap into anything WAS A GREAT GUY ,BUT when it came to partying hard had the moral compass of a tree stump..............TIM RICHMOND.

BBQB, Tim McCreadie is the only one that comes to mind who did well at The Chili Bowl that was from a totally different racing discipline. But, I consider Tim to have originally have cut his teeth and made his mark (the long knives may come out again! LOL!!) and jumped to dirt lates later on in his career, much like Kenny Brightbill and maybe a few others.

BBQB, you very appropriately named some very heavy hitters in your overall dirt category, and I would add a couple of names to your stellar list: A.J. Foyt (#1 on dirt overall), Jack Hewitt (who actually won some features in a generic dirt late model), Ralph Earnhardt, Don White, Johnny Beauchamp, Ramo Stott, Curtis Turner and David Pearson. It is said that Pearson was better on the dirt than he was on pavement and he was really, really good on pavement.

In the final analysis, I will reiterate my pick of the generic dirt late model era is Jeff Purvis but unfortunately Jeff doesn't count since his dirt career was ended short of the 25-30 year criteria as a result of him being so good. That didn't happen with snort, partly because of the involvement with dope. Snort and Moyer stayed in the dirt lates and have performed at the highest level for the longest time. If we're only talking about the generic era then take your pick between snort or Moyer, dope problems notwithstanding.

Great discussion!! And the long knives never came out!! LOL!!!

[CIRF]

Purvis was the best I ever saw. Cant include in the 25-30, but he put on the biggest beatdown I ever saw at a loaded field of cars on the big 5/8 Tri City speedway back in the late 80's. He lapped everybody .....most 2 times, and im not talking a bunch of scrubs. All the big boys were there. Drivers literally sat on the door sills of their cars afterwords in the pits, looking at each other like WTF just happened out there? It was an awesome display of skill. High. Low. Middle. He never bobbled once in 50 laps.

Good story rh!! I'm with ya' 100% in reference to Purvis.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Rest assured respect is mutual cnbf. And you're correct in that I kinda' get a kick outa' playin' the dope card and lack of success in other forms of racing now and again. I commend you for not taking it personally as if snort is your twin brother, or something like that.

Snort portray's himself in a fashion that completely lacks any hint of humility and any kind of levity in regards to how he illustrates himself. As you said, we all have character flaws but if he's going to retain that type of attitude then there is going to be plenty of blow (no pun intended) back. If he, or his fans, don't like the blow back then don't do that line of blow or venture into other forms of racing and suck really bad doing it.

Did anyone mention the Chili Bowl fiasco, or the less than flattering ARCA experience at Springfield? LOL!! Something can be said for the school of thought that leans towards the good possibility that snort possibly isn't all that good when he ventures out of a dirt late or dirt mod. That said, there is no particular disgrace in not being all that good outside of your comfort zone.

cnbf, I think you're referring to Aaron Fike who is the brother of A.J. The last report I heard is that Aaron Fike has been clean and sober for several years now. There are others who have tainted their legacy and then redeemed themselves. Shane Hmiel comes to mind. Shane admitted he'd done something very wrong and was contrite and repentant and won the adulation of all. Snort, on the other hand, has always acted as if he'd done absolutely nothing wrong and contrition is a word not in snort's vocabulary, let alone in his psyche.

Just who is this "snort" guy? Don't answer that!!