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  • 427c.i.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 1218

    #16
    I've been to the Icebreaker twice. Both times the track was so dry it was dusty and painfully slow during hot laps, the suck factor just went up from there.
    Don't see any reason to go back.

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    • ftfiowa
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1070

      #17
      there is 1 Lucas race where the track is good and racy and not dirtphault...its called the Knoxville LM Nats. Some of you folks need to venture to this race in 2015 instead of going to crap tracks and paying $$$$$!
      Everybody Love Everybody!
      Spumoni!
      4m trolls are so sad....

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      • Highside Hustler25
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 12920

        #18
        Originally posted by COKEandaSMILE View Post
        Your post is complete horse sh!t!!!!

        I don't expect the best track conditions. What I do expect is the best effort possible to provide the best track condition possible!
        and you know zero about track prep clown so carry on. Just because the moisture is not at the surface doesn't mean it's not there. Very easy to get to much water down this time of year. That's why you see tracks come apart this early in the season. It's not what's on the surface, but what's 3 inches deep.
        Last edited by Highside Hustler25; 03-24-2015, 04:29 AM.
        8/13/16

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        • COKEandaSMILE
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 449

          #19
          You realize that you're arguing against expecting the promoter to do everything possible to provide the best track possible???

          Think about that for a minute.

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          • Brownstown Speedway
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 13

            #20
            As the promoter of Brownstown Speedway I would like to take the opportunity to apologize to all the fans for the lackluster feature at the Icebreaker. In hindsight I now know what went wrong, in a effort to supply the racers with a smooth surface we simply over did it. But I'm not here to make excuses but to let the fans know that I am 100% to blame. Lucas Officials approached me before feature with a recommendation but I refused. So please do not blame the LODLMS in any way. I learned a valuable lesson at the fans expense and will do everything in my power to never let it happen again. Once again I am solely to blame and truly sorry. Thank you for your support,Jim Price

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            • Barbecueboy
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 18116

              #21
              Originally posted by Brownstown Speedway View Post
              As the promoter of Brownstown Speedway I would like to take the opportunity to apologize to all the fans for the lackluster feature at the Icebreaker. In hindsight I now know what went wrong, in a effort to supply the racers with a smooth surface we simply over did it. But I'm not here to make excuses but to let the fans know that I am 100% to blame. Lucas Officials approached me before feature with a recommendation but I refused. So please do not blame the LODLMS in any way. I learned a valuable lesson at the fans expense and will do everything in my power to never let it happen again. Once again I am solely to blame and truly sorry. Thank you for your support,Jim Price
              This post in itself speaks volumes..........manning up , admitting his mistake and making efforts to not let it happen again.

              Brownstown deserves a second look for all the naysayers.........good post Jim.
              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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              • pink floyd
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 8181

                #22
                Originally posted by Brownstown Speedway View Post
                As the promoter of Brownstown Speedway I would like to take the opportunity to apologize to all the fans for the lackluster feature at the Icebreaker. In hindsight I now know what went wrong, in a effort to supply the racers with a smooth surface we simply over did it. But I'm not here to make excuses but to let the fans know that I am 100% to blame. Lucas Officials approached me before feature with a recommendation but I refused. So please do not blame the LODLMS in any way. I learned a valuable lesson at the fans expense and will do everything in my power to never let it happen again. Once again I am solely to blame and truly sorry. Thank you for your support,Jim Price
                I appreciate the apology, and will now be back for the hell tour opener. thanks jim.
                jackie boggs....the last true outlaw
                anyone but lanigan
                Swartz - we don't build race cars fast, we build fast race cars

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                • kazual
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 1168

                  #23
                  Touring teams like it slick and smooth, easy on delicate equipment and strained budgets, tip toe is preferred to hammer down. Many fans, not all, like it tacky and fast even if it's somewhat rough as a result. Don't kid yourself into thinking the fan gets more input than the traveling teams. The series has to cater to their traveling troupe week in and week out, they only have to appeal to a race fan for one event, or a limited few events, during the course of a season.
                  Last edited by kazual; 03-24-2015, 07:59 AM.
                  I hate time trials.

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                  • cutman
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 1004

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                    This post in itself speaks volumes..........manning up , admitting his mistake and making efforts to not let it happen again.

                    Brownstown deserves a second look for all the naysayers.........good post Jim.
                    Still gonna need proof in the pudding, but it's a good start.

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                    • Chuck Goff
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 3

                      #25
                      Thank you Mr. Price for addressing my issues. I will be back to see more racing in the future. I truly hope Brownstown Speedway has a fantastic year.

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                      • DestinyUnbound
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 355

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Chuck Goff View Post
                        Thank you Mr. Price for addressing my issues. I will be back to see more racing in the future. I truly hope Brownstown Speedway has a fantastic year.
                        Wow, you got your apology and now you'll be back. You really thought they weren't doing all they could to provide a good track? Why people seem to feel so entitled to have the best experience of their life and then complain when it's not is beyond me. What a cry baby. Everyone is an expert these days. Don't pis em off or they will complain and you'll have to do the politically correct thing. What a douche. Try asking questions next time instead of jumping to conclusions.

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                        • Bubstr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3734

                          #27
                          It has to be hard to run a track. One mistake wipes out ten atta boys. Some what like being a good husband. You can be handsome, rich, buy her presents and say all the right things, but pat the neighbor's wife's fanny, just once and you lost all trust. That seems to be where Brownstown is right now, with some of it's fans. It took their money and didn't preform up to expectations. Now they have a trust issue. You can apologize but they are just words. Till you have a show, that they are sorry they missed, the trust issues continue.

                          I don't have issues with Brownstown, but I do with one of these early scheduled tracks that rubbered down last year. The second chance, they called the show for rain, but not in enough time to save a two hour trip and when I got there, the sun was shining and not all that wet. I'll be skipping that show until I miss one there, that I wish I would have went to. Maybe two. It's hard work to keep the trust of the fans. It's harder to get it back, once lost.

                          Some would say, "if you don't like it, don't go. It's only one person." It may be one person out of ten and you lost 10% of your gate. I don't see any business surviving that. I don't envy that job, but that is the job they took. Any job worth doing, is worth doing well. This is a wake up call to all tracks. The entertainment dollar is hard to come by, these days.

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                          • TackyTracker
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 5316

                            #28
                            kudos for admitting fault... Tough to get that anymore

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                            • Captain Happy
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 343

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Brownstown Speedway View Post
                              As the promoter of Brownstown Speedway I would like to take the opportunity to apologize to all the fans for the lackluster feature at the Icebreaker. In hindsight I now know what went wrong, in a effort to supply the racers with a smooth surface we simply over did it. But I'm not here to make excuses but to let the fans know that I am 100% to blame. Lucas Officials approached me before feature with a recommendation but I refused. So please do not blame the LODLMS in any way. I learned a valuable lesson at the fans expense and will do everything in my power to never let it happen again. Once again I am solely to blame and truly sorry. Thank you for your support,Jim Price
                              Just one question if I may, I feel it is relevant here... What did Lucas Officials recommend you to do that you refused? Thanks.

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                              • Clayton_Wetter
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 16671

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Brownstown Speedway View Post
                                As the promoter of Brownstown Speedway I would like to take the opportunity to apologize to all the fans for the lackluster feature at the Icebreaker. In hindsight I now know what went wrong, in a effort to supply the racers with a smooth surface we simply over did it. But I'm not here to make excuses but to let the fans know that I am 100% to blame. Lucas Officials approached me before feature with a recommendation but I refused. So please do not blame the LODLMS in any way. I learned a valuable lesson at the fans expense and will do everything in my power to never let it happen again. Once again I am solely to blame and truly sorry. Thank you for your support,Jim Price
                                I want to thank you Mr. Price for the apology, and have hopes that you truly mean well in an effort to have better track prep as a weekly effort at Brownstown. As a fan that attended races there weekly starting in 1975 I remember in those days and into the early eighties that the track was almost always tacky all night, and dust was an issue that happened maybe just a time or two a season. The racing was consistently excellent back then also, so I have something to compare with "too" many seasons starting in the early eighties when the track prep has been terrible for so many years. I know the dust is something that can't be eliminated totally and that sometimes it can happen due to circumstances, but sometimes not only does the racing suffer but also the fans can too. It is hard to enjoy the racing with so much dirt flying into your eyes and speaking for myself the sinus infections are also an issue that has made my friend and I travel elsewhere.

                                I remember one night the announcer (Bedford Mayor John Williams) apologizing for dust on a hot windy night back in about 1976. He said that they had put 36,000 gallons of water on the track that day in total, so we knew that the water was soaking deep into the track for sure.

                                Last season We had hopes that you were turning around this long lasting track prep issue as the track prep was obviously better than it has been in many years. So I'm hoping that you will be the one to return this track to what it once was. Good luck sir.
                                Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 03-24-2015, 04:15 PM.

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