American Dirt Late Model Rankings as of 6 April 2015

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  • SFrancisFan15
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 955

    #16
    Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
    How can you say that DoD rankings are horrible when 8 of the top 10 are the same? Including who is number 1. Clanton has raced a grand total of 4 times since speedweeks, all local or regional shows because of rainouts. And he still has the most national tour wins among everybody.

    Maybe you are just pissed because your boy, Richards is in 9th on DoD poll.

    The weather has a lot to do with why there hasn't been much change at the top in BOTH polls.
    He won't admit it but anything that doesn't go Richards way or a post he isn't praised for will be a foolish post in ole Jeffrey's eyes.
    www.stevefrancisracing.com

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    • drano
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1339

      #17
      I am really surprised Richard's is in second.

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      • Highside Hustler25
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 12921

        #18
        Originally posted by SDLM Rankings View Post
        The schedule has been sparse since FL. I expect to see some shake-up over the next few weeks.
        You must enjoy having to explain to everyone why their favorite racer is not ranked higher than another racer. Yer a glutton for punishment my friend. Keep up the good work.

        How bout that Devin Moran
        8/13/16

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        • W2Racing09
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 1691

          #19
          Originally posted by SFrancisFan15 View Post
          He won't admit it but anything that doesn't go Richards way or a post he isn't praised for will be a foolish post in ole Jeffrey's eyes.
          Right, because I wasn't a racing fan before I was a Josh Richards fan.

          I couldn't care less who is ranked where, but I don't put much stock in the DoD rankings. They certainly are a popularity contest and anyone who disputes that is incorrect. You are asking a bunch of people their opinion, that is why Bloomquist who has done almost nothing this season are ranked higher than drivers like EPJ and Richards who both have several wins on the National tours. He is only so high in the rankings because of how he ran at the end of 2014 and his name. If he were some regional driver with the same results he would be down in the 20s somewhere.

          I don't think Richards has been the #1 driver in the country, but there certainly is a discussion for who #1 is. Not outright Shane Clanton with the results he has had running with local and regional fields.

          Lastly, my name is Jeff not Jeffrey -- but I guess you were just trying to keep with the overlying theme of your posts(s) which are entirely ignorant and incorrect.

          Thanks,
          Jeff.

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          • W2Racing09
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 1691

            #20
            Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
            Nope....... Not even close.
            Please explain what it is then when you ask a bunch of people their opinion.

            If you ask a bunch of people on here who the best driver in DLM history is you will get a bunch of answers mostly based on people's opinion. I will say Josh Richards, BBQ might say Casey Roberts, and a bunch might say Bloomquist, etc. But at the end of the day its all just opinions.

            Thanks,
            Jeff.
            Last edited by W2Racing09; 04-07-2015, 07:16 PM.

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            • huskerdirt
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 5620

              #21
              Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
              Please explain what it is then when you ask a bunch of people their opinion.

              Thanks,
              Jeff.
              Read what he wrote....... Driven by media, sponsors, and popularity......

              If that was infact 100% true..... Then either ranking would not match up at all. Clanton wouldn't be #1 and Josh Richards wouldn't be 9th considering how much Rocket advertises on the site.

              Both polls have one glaring describency between the two. Otherwise the polls pretty much match up..... 8 of 10 top ten match. Yet you bash one and not the other.

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              • drano
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1339

                #22
                Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                Please explain what it is then when you ask a bunch of people their opinion.

                If you ask a bunch of people on here who the best driver in DLM history is you will get a bunch of answers mostly based on people's opinion. I will say Josh Richards, BBQ might say Casey Roberts, and a bunch might say Bloomquist, etc. But at the end of the day its all just opinions.

                Thanks,
                Jeff.
                One thing is for sure if you had a ranking it would be for sure a popularity poll.

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                • W2Racing09
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1691

                  #23
                  Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
                  Read what he wrote....... Driven by media, sponsors, and popularity......

                  If that was infact 100% true..... Then either ranking would not match up at all. Clanton wouldn't be #1 and Josh Richards wouldn't be 9th considering how much Rocket advertises on the site.

                  Both polls have one glaring describency between the two. Otherwise the polls pretty much match up..... 8 of 10 top ten match. After that does it really matter?

                  You get on here and b!tch about a meaningless poll every week.
                  I have not bitched about the DoD poll? I just prefer this one as it is based on fact. I do think it is incorrect to list Josh Richards as 9th when he is one of only a select few with three national caliber wins in 2015. However if you look back to last year I preferred these rankings back then too.

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                  • W2Racing09
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1691

                    #24
                    Originally posted by drano View Post
                    One thing is for sure if you had a ranking it would be for sure a popularity poll.
                    If any one person or group of people make a ranking it is based on popularity. There is no other way to cut it, if these drivers were to only ever compete with each other that would be one thing. But they don't so its impossible to know who would be ranked where. This ranking is the closest it gets to being even remotely

                    If I had to rank the top 10 it would look a little different. But again, it would just be based on my opinion. Does Josh Richards deserve to be above Moyer? Who knows they both did great in GA/FL and had a few wins. Bobby Pierce has one of the highest paying wins this season so far, how does that factor in? Should it be worth more than Richards' wins or Moyer's wins?

                    1. Shane Clanton (but not by much)
                    2. Jonathan Davenport
                    3. Josh Richards
                    4. Billy Moyer
                    5. Earl Pearson Jr.
                    6. Randy Weaver
                    7. Eddie Carrier Jr.
                    8. Darrel Lanigan
                    9. - 10. Scott Bloomquist? Casey Roberts? Bobby Pierce?

                    Thanks,
                    Jeff.
                    Last edited by W2Racing09; 04-07-2015, 07:39 PM.

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                    • huskerdirt
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5620

                      #25
                      Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                      I have not bitched about the DoD poll? I just prefer this one as it is based on fact. I do think it is incorrect to list Josh Richards as 9th when he is one of only a select few with three national caliber wins in 2015. However if you look back to last year I preferred these rankings back then too.
                      You stated DoDs rankings were HORRIBLE. Despite the top of both polls basically matching up. You also questioned why Clanton is still number 1...... Actually he is number one both polls. Oh wait according to you SDLMR are the only one that matters.

                      No true poll is ever based on FACTS. SDLMR uses a formula calculated by a human. DoDs is 30 different opinions and put out as one poll. The fact that are close to matching up despite the different criteria is an accomplishment. Don't ya think?

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                      • huskerdirt
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 5620

                        #26
                        Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                        If any one person or group of people make a ranking it is based on popularity. There is no other way to cut it, if these drivers were to only ever compete with each other that would be one thing. But they don't so its impossible to know who would be ranked where. This ranking is the closest it gets to being even remotely

                        If I had to rank the top 10 it would look a little different. But again, it would just be based on my opinion. Does Josh Richards deserve to be above Moyer? Who knows they both did great in GA/FL and had a few wins. Bobby Pierce has one of the highest paying wins this season so far, how does that factor in? Should it be worth more than Richards' wins or Moyer's wins?

                        1. Shane Clanton (but not by much)
                        2. Jonathan Davenport
                        3. Josh Richards
                        4. Billy Moyer
                        5. Earl Pearson Jr.
                        6. Randy Weaver
                        7. Eddie Carrier Jr.
                        8. Darrel Lanigan
                        9. - 10. Scott Bloomquist? Casey Roberts? Bobby Pierce?

                        Thanks,
                        Jeff.

                        Why would you rank Randy Weaver ahead of guys that have national tour wins? Yes Randy has 4 REGIONAL wins. But has yet to even entered a show that pays 10k to win or more.

                        Why would Bobby Pierce be a candidate to be 10th despite not doing jack sh!t until this weekend?

                        Sounds like a POPULARITY vote to me.

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                        • W2Racing09
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1691

                          #27
                          Originally posted by huskerdirt View Post
                          Why would you rank Randy Weaver ahead of guys that have national tour wins? Yes Randy has 4 REGIONAL wins. But has yet to even entered a show that pays 10k to win or more.

                          Why would Bobby Pierce be a candidate to be 10th despite not doing jack sh!t until this weekend?

                          Sounds like a POPULARITY vote to me.
                          IT IS A POPULARITY VOTE. THAT IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU ASK FOR SOMEONES OPINION. I know I'm wrong because its just my opinion with no real facts or stats to back it up. My biggest problem with the DoD rankings was the placement of Lanigan and Bloomquist near the top of the poll when they have been mediocre at best.

                          Weaver raced against regional and national competition in some of his races. Pierce hasn't done much but this weekend he was dominant, which means a lot more than being mediocre like Bloomquist was for three weeks in GA/FL.

                          I am not a fan of Weaver (Not really a fan of anyone driving an LH chassis) or Pierce.

                          Thanks,
                          Jeff.
                          Last edited by W2Racing09; 04-07-2015, 07:58 PM.

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                          • drano
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1339

                            #28
                            Why are you so hung up on chassis brand's I guess if you are it is ok, just wondering.

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                            • Barbecueboy
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 18116

                              #29
                              Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                              Please explain what it is then when you ask a bunch of people their opinion.

                              If you ask a bunch of people on here who the best driver in DLM history is you will get a bunch of answers mostly based on people's opinion. I will say Josh Richards, BBQ might say Casey Roberts, and a bunch might say Bloomquist, etc. But at the end of the day its all just opinions.

                              Thanks,
                              Jeff.
                              Hey sport........you have absolutely no idea who I might or might not say is the best driver in dlm history.

                              Keep me out of your shinniston kool aid conversations please.

                              And as much as I'm a fan and a friend of Mr and Mrs Roberts , I wouldn't declare Casey the best driver ever in dlm history.

                              He is just the best driver I've seen recently dump somebody back for driving him dirty......in case you didn't notice ( ironically at the same track and almost the same spot) you can make an aggressive move and drive it in deep without running all over someone.

                              And win to boot!!!

                              And on top of all that, there was no need for a crew member beat down this time.


                              But just for the record, and to give you a reason to tell everyone your distinct point of view about how wrong I am ............purvis has my vote for the best ever up to this point.

                              But in 20 years from now, the majority of pundits will tell you bloomquist was the best ever..............and they will be correct.
                              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                              • huskerdirt
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 5620

                                #30
                                Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                                IT IS A POPULARITY VOTE. THAT IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU ASK FOR SOMEONES OPINION. I know I'm wrong because its just my opinion with no real facts or stats to back it up. My biggest problem with the DoD rankings was the placement of Lanigan and Bloomquist near the top of the poll when they have been mediocre at best.

                                Weaver raced against regional and national competition in some of his races. Pierce hasn't done much but this weekend he was dominant, which means a lot more than being mediocre like Bloomquist was for three weeks in GA/FL.

                                I am not a fan of Weaver (Not really a fan of anyone driving an LH chassis) or Pierce.

                                Thanks,
                                Jeff.


                                Hey genius. SDLMR actually has Scott Bloomquist higher by about 2 spots than DoD. Lanigan has a whopping 4 spot difference between the two.

                                Furthermore..... In your opinion. Weaver is the 6th best driver in the country. Guess what DoD has him 7th. SDLMR has him 37th.

                                Which poll do you pefer again????

                                Lmao!!!!!

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