American Dirt Late Model Rankings as of 6 April 2015

[W2Racing09]

Actually Jeffrey... You are a joke in itself!! You seem to try and clown everyone else but yet you can't stand it when someone steps back into you!! I've sat back and watched you run your mouth to different ones on here about various different things and I think that most will agree that your full of yourself and full of poo as well.... You can have some decent debates but they most generally end up in an argument of some sort or you hugging on josh Richards nutz!! Now don't get me wrong I don't blame a guy for praising his favorite driver but 90% of your posts end up talking about that kid and how great you seem to think him and his bottle rocket chassis is!! Rocket=good chassis Jeffrey=nuthugger!! COMPRENDE!!

Fair enough, if that is what you want to think go for it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you otherwise, after all the education system tried for 12 years to teach you grammar and you still seem to think half of the words in English language end in an exclamation point. Not to mention that I don't really care at all what you think.

[W2Racing09]

Now Jeffrey I'm done on this thread if you want to continue this little debate go on over to the tailgate section.....

If this is what passes for a debate I'm glad I don't pay any attention to that section.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Barbecueboy]

But wait, there is more...........if you order today we will send you two( not one), but two one sided opinions!!

Taxes, shipping and mishandling information fees included.

[Bubstr]

The ranking list, I'd like to see is a dollars % per race average. I really don't care who they ran against or how much the race paid. When you step away from the table, it's how many dollars you have in the pocket and good hands don't mean anything. That makes the playing field even for those talented drivers that don't follow a series. For those that don't agree, make a glory list. A good example coming up is the Commonwealth vs Lucas and Woo. Va. payout is bigger than Woo and Lucas, but all regional drivers. Then there is the Hell Tour. Mostly regional but lots of money, or MLRA, Cornbelt Clash, Mars, Alms, Ultimate, Spring Nationals, Southern Nationals plus the weekly LM shows. The money spends the same no matter who raced and lower purses would lower percentages, but add to total for guys that raced big and small shows. The way I see it, is at the end of the day, a trophy is nice but being able to race the next day is more important.

Which would you want? A guy that raced 10 times and won average was 5k or a guy that raced 10 times and won a 10k show for a 1k average.

[huskerdirt]

Alright,

Please explain why Darrel Lanigan, Jimmy Owens, and Scott Bloomquist are all listed above Josh Richards, and Owens and Lanigan are listed ahead of Moyer.

Those four spots you are talking about are four of the most important spots on the poll, you yourself said anything past 10th is pointless.

With that said, I'm not talking about just this weeks version of the poll. Apparently you have a horrible memory because I was on here talking about this ranking last year too. If Josh Richards was locked into first every week and the rest were being ranked from 2-25 I would still be critical of the DoD poll. I may have posted this time without looking at the poll, but either way by the end of the year if those drivers are ranked higher it will be because they deserve to be there not just because they have had spectacular careers in DLM racing -- that's great but it does nothing to prove how good they are this season. If we are going by history then every year Montreal should be ranked #1 in the NHL and the Steelers should be ranked #1 in the NFL, etc.

Thanks,
Jeff.

You are the first person to mention past history regarding the poll. If past history had any barring on this poll. Scott Bloomquist would be #1 and Billy Moyer would be #2. We can probably slot in Jeff Purvis at #3. You are right, you've been crictial of DoDs poll in the past. Maybe some people have had enough. Of course you didn't do yourself any favors by not even looking at this weeks poll.


How can positions 4-9 be the most the important spots in the polls? I thought number 1 would be at the top followed by 2 and so on. Clanton went from unranked to #1 in a span 2.5 weeks. So quit acting like somebody is getting a screw job in April after a month of rainouts.

So you want me to explain why Jimmy and Darrell are ahead of Billy? Did you look at margin between those 3??? It's 25 points. That's not very many. Those 3 have made a combined 4 starts between since speedweeks. IMO, that's not a very good sample size.

None of the top ten changed last week, btw. So why is it a problem now?

As far as Richards dropping. He was 5th after speedweeks, he goes to Brownstown and Atomic. Two guys ranked behind him won features, so that probably dropped him alittle. Does it really matter in March/April where he is ranked? Step back and think about that. Ohio State fans weren't b!tching about the football rankings in September.

Look at point margins between 4-9. It's very small and few votes either could jump a guy a few spots. Did you ever look at that?

Jeffery....... I don't get how you can say one poll is useless and the other is spot on when the top guys are ranked at the top in both polls. You gave your opinion about a top ten, which didn't even come close to matching up what the other two polls have. Then chastised a opinion poll.... What did you expect?

Before next weeks DoD poll.... I suggest you do a little research on the poll. Examine past polls and see how/what caused them to move. Then look at the actual margins between positions. Since you have time to get on here and criticized a poll. You have time to probably do that.

[W2Racing09]

You are the first person to mention past history regarding the poll. If past history had any barring on this poll. Scott Bloomquist would be #1 and Billy Moyer would be #2. We can probably slot in Jeff Purvis at #3. You are right, you've been crictial of DoDs poll in the past. Maybe some people have had enough. Of course you didn't do yourself any favors by not even looking at this weeks poll.


So you want me to explain why Jimmy and Darrell are ahead of Billy? Did you look at margin between those 3??? It's 25 points. That's not very many. Those 3 have made a combined 4 starts between since speedweeks. IMO, that's not a very good sample size.

None of the top ten changed last week, btw. So why is it a problem now?

As far as Richards dropping. He was 5th after speedweeks, he goes to Brownstown and Atomic. Two guys ranked behind him won features, so that probably dropped him alittle. Does it really matter in March/April where he is ranked? Step back and think about that. Ohio State fans weren't b!tching about the football rankings in September.

Look at point margins between 4-9. It's very small and few votes either could jump a guy a few spots. Did you ever look at that?

Jeffery....... I don't get how you can say one poll is useless and the other is spot on when the top guys are ranked at the top in both polls. You gave your opinion about a top ten, which didn't even come close to matching up what the other two polls have. Then chastised a opinion poll.... What did you expect?

Before next weeks DoD poll.... I suggest you do a little research on the poll. Examine past polls and see how/what caused them to move. Then look at the actual margins between positions. Since you have time to get on here and criticized a poll. You have time to probably do that.

You are exactly right, a few votes (points) is a huge swing in the DoD poll. My point exactly, it is opinion based. Just like my (incorrect) top ten list is.

The only reason I say this one (ADLMR) is better is because when someone questions something there are statistics to back it up. With the DoD poll the only statistics as you pointed out are that people voted this way or that way.

If you make a top 10 list, and I make a top 10 list and BBQ makes a top 10 list they all have one thing in common with the DoD poll. They are all opinion based. As far as ADLMR goes opinion does not play into the ranking at all, it is stat based. As you said the statistical categories are selected by a human, but I think we can all agree that the statistics used are the ones we could consider most important in determining who the #1 driver in the country is.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[W2Racing09]

The ranking list, I'd like to see is a dollars % per race average. I really don't care who they ran against or how much the race paid. When you step away from the table, it's how many dollars you have in the pocket and good hands don't mean anything. That makes the playing field even for those talented drivers that don't follow a series. For those that don't agree, make a glory list. A good example coming up is the Commonwealth vs Lucas and Woo. Va. payout is bigger than Woo and Lucas, but all regional drivers. Then there is the Hell Tour. Mostly regional but lots of money, or MLRA, Cornbelt Clash, Mars, Alms, Ultimate, Spring Nationals, Southern Nationals plus the weekly LM shows. The money spends the same no matter who raced and lower purses would lower percentages, but add to total for guys that raced big and small shows. The way I see it, is at the end of the day, a trophy is nice but being able to race the next day is more important.

Which would you want? A guy that raced 10 times and won average was 5k or a guy that raced 10 times and won a 10k show for a 1k average.

I'm pretty sure there is a statistic that they have posted occasionally on this site that shows total dollars. Maybe he could pull that again.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Barbecueboy]

You are the first person to mention past history regarding the poll. If past history had any barring on this poll. Scott Bloomquist would be #1 and Billy Moyer would be #2. We can probably slot in Jeff Purvis at #3. You are right, you've been crictial of DoDs poll in the past. Maybe some people have had enough. Of course you didn't do yourself any favors by not even looking at this weeks poll.


So you want me to explain why Jimmy and Darrell are ahead of Billy? Did you look at margin between those 3??? It's 25 points. That's not very many. Those 3 have made a combined 4 starts between since speedweeks. IMO, that's not a very good sample size.

None of the top ten changed last week, btw. So why is it a problem now?

As far as Richards dropping. He was 5th after speedweeks, he goes to Brownstown and Atomic. Two guys ranked behind him won features, so that probably dropped him alittle. Does it really matter in March/April where he is ranked? Step back and think about that. Ohio State fans weren't b!tching about the football rankings in September.

Look at point margins between 4-9. It's very small and few votes either could jump a guy a few spots. Did you ever look at that?

Jeffery....... I don't get how you can say one poll is useless and the other is spot on when the top guys are ranked at the top in both polls. You gave your opinion about a top ten, which didn't even come close to matching up what the other two polls have. Then chastised a opinion poll.... What did you expect?

Before next weeks DoD poll.... I suggest you do a little research on the poll. Examine past polls and see how/what caused them to move. Then look at the actual margins between positions. Since you have time to get on here and criticized a poll. You have time to probably do that.

Husker IN THE HOUSE!!!!!

Nicely done.

[W2Racing09]

You are the first person to mention past history regarding the poll. If past history had any barring on this poll. Scott Bloomquist would be #1 and Billy Moyer would be #2. We can probably slot in Jeff Purvis at #3. You are right, you've been crictial of DoDs poll in the past. Maybe some people have had enough. Of course you didn't do yourself any favors by not even looking at this weeks poll.


How can positions 4-9 be the most the important spots in the polls? I thought number 1 would be at the top followed by 2 and so on. Clanton went from unranked to #1 in a span 2.5 weeks. So quit acting like somebody is getting a screw job in April after a month of rainouts.

So you want me to explain why Jimmy and Darrell are ahead of Billy? Did you look at margin between those 3??? It's 25 points. That's not very many. Those 3 have made a combined 4 starts between since speedweeks. IMO, that's not a very good sample size.

None of the top ten changed last week, btw. So why is it a problem now?

As far as Richards dropping. He was 5th after speedweeks, he goes to Brownstown and Atomic. Two guys ranked behind him won features, so that probably dropped him alittle. Does it really matter in March/April where he is ranked? Step back and think about that. Ohio State fans weren't b!tching about the football rankings in September.

Look at point margins between 4-9. It's very small and few votes either could jump a guy a few spots. Did you ever look at that?

Jeffery....... I don't get how you can say one poll is useless and the other is spot on when the top guys are ranked at the top in both polls. You gave your opinion about a top ten, which didn't even come close to matching up what the other two polls have. Then chastised a opinion poll.... What did you expect?

Before next weeks DoD poll.... I suggest you do a little research on the poll. Examine past polls and see how/what caused them to move. Then look at the actual margins between positions. Since you have time to get on here and criticized a poll. You have time to probably do that.

I do have to give you props though, you were the first person in this thread to correctly spell my name.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Barbecueboy]

Since we are talking polls here...........I would like to get a feeling on what has been the most egregious slider/dive bomb dik driving move of the year so far in 2015.

And while we are at it, let's also start a poll on who has executed the best ( non dik)slide move of the year to win a race .

Here is a hint............it won't be the same driver.

[W2Racing09]

Since we are talking polls here...........I would like to get a feeling on what has been the most egregious slider/dive bomb dik driving move of the year so far in 2015.

And while we are at it, let's also start a poll on who has executed the best ( non dik)slide move of the year to win a race .

Can we also add a poll for the driver who could have potentially injured the most people by running into a car at the scales?

Seriously though, this topic isn't even about Casey Roberts vs. Josh Richards and I didn't even mention it once. Not sure where this came from BBQ.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Nasty55]

Before next weeks DoD poll.... I suggest you do a little research on the poll. Examine past polls and see how/what caused them to move. Then look at the actual margins between positions. Since you have time to get on here and criticized a poll. You have time to probably do that.

Husker he can't do it and he won't do it because he will let that over inflated ego of his get in the way. Just sayin

[W2Racing09]

he won't do it

The very first correct statement you've ever made on 4m.

I'm not going to examine anything, the only thing I'll make sure to do next time is look at both polls before posting.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Nasty55]

The very first correct statement you've ever made on 4m.

I'm not going to examine anything, the only thing I'll make sure to do next time is look at both polls before posting.

Thanks,
Jeff.

Yeah ok Ricky Bobby... Its your story tell it how you want.

[Kwd1253]

I do have to give you props though, you were the first person in this thread to correctly spell my name.Thanks,Jeff.

Jeffery so that how back woods hillbilly rednecks spell Jeffery jk... husker husker dirty dirty huskerdirt can you pm where I can get all the info how dod ranking works? I can't find it on dod maybe I'm just blind as Ray Charles tho!