Ever wondered what all goes into prepping a dirt track?

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  • Highside Hustler25
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 12972

    #16
    Originally posted by GEAR_HEAD View Post
    I've been to Smoky Mountain before, one race was below average and the other was decent. You could tell though that they try to keep the grader parked as long as possible. That is the absolute easiest way to prep a dirt track. Pack it into asphalt, then try to water a rock. The problem is you can't water a rock and mother nature is your only hope to get the track to hold moisture. My point was if you want to see how good track prep is done go to #FALS, Macon, Jacksonville's summernats race, Tri-State, Boone, or Knoxville. Those tracks never miss the mark. Lets give a little bit of credit to the true track prep masters.
    Most of the tracks you mentioned do hit the mark. They also look more like mudbog tracks prior to hot laps. Some tracks just plain don't use enough water. I'm sure the type of dirt plays into the equation some. When I see the push/pack trucks unable to stay up on the banking without sliding down, I know it will be a good night.
    8/13/16

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    • buster83
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 1878

      #17
      lot of tracks just do not use additives to keep moisture in and the dust down.

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      • GRT62
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 177

        #18

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        • Speed Zone
          Banned
          • May 2015
          • 170

          #19
          One thing I do know adout track prep is you have to torn it deep right after your last race for the night.

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          • MotoMatt
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 314

            #20
            Can't believe you lumped Boone into the category of "good track prep"...They never, NEVER, let the track slick over. There are about 25% wood chips to hold moisture and they "farm" it at least once a night. During supernationals it may be necessary to tear it up with that many races going on, but on a weekly show all they are doing is taking skill out of it and letting the big HP guys run it. Don't get me wrong, lots of good racing there, but it's always hammer down fast...not my kind of show. I always like East Moline, IL, that little bull ring would go black from the top to the bottom and stay racy the entire night.

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            • Clayton_Wetter
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 16671

              #21
              Originally posted by Hoosier_Dirt View Post
              How many tracks have you guys actually prepared?
              Is that requirement? If so then what's their excuse???

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              • Clayton_Wetter
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 16671

                #22
                Originally posted by Wet & Tacky
                When you show up to a track for the second day of a two day event and the track is smooth with a black groove on it from the previous day and all that is being done is watering and more packing with a tractor trailer loaded with concrete items that ain't how you prep a dirt track. Saw that during my last race trip to Bulls Gap over a decade ago.

                One of the weakest lame track prep excuses ever is the cost of diesel fuel keeping the water truck from being used enough excuse. IF a track owner can't afford diesel fuel for the water truck you sure don't need to be opening the gates to host races!
                And it don't take an actual track preparer to observe that reality!!

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                • Hoosier_Dirt
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1632

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                  Is that requirement? If so then what's their excuse???
                  Not necessarily a requirement, just wondering how many on here (if any) have actually prepared a dirt track. Myself, I have helped a few times, on different tracks, and there are so many variables that go into it, its not just cut and dry as some think. Some things work better on some surfaces than others.
                  My feeling is that if the poeple complaining were handed the keys to prep a track, they'd see its not so easy.

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                  • HoosierDirtFan
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 22186

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Scott Boesel View Post
                    Someone told me that the week prior to the Knoxville sprint natls they start there track prep and farm the track 24/7 thats crazy but cool i also heard Boone does the same thing with the imca super nationals
                    I seen a video on Youtube on Boone Speedway about a year ago and it was really good and a new promoter could learn a thing or two from it.

                    Here is the video of Boone (Iowa) Speedway track prep.
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUpirSqyH9I
                    Nathan Stephens

                    Next Race - 7/20 TBA
                    2024 Season: 14 - Brownstown (IN) 2, Fairbury (IL) 2, Farmer City (IL) 1, Grundy Co (IL) 1, Kankakee (IL) 2, & Shadyhill (IN) 6

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                    • HoosierDirtFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 22186

                      #25
                      Did even see this post but just posted the same video of Boone Speedway in Iowa. All tracks have their own way of prepping the racing surface some are just better then others.
                      Nathan Stephens

                      Next Race - 7/20 TBA
                      2024 Season: 14 - Brownstown (IN) 2, Fairbury (IL) 2, Farmer City (IL) 1, Grundy Co (IL) 1, Kankakee (IL) 2, & Shadyhill (IN) 6

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                      • Speed Zone
                        Banned
                        • May 2015
                        • 170

                        #26
                        You CAN NOT beat the effort Boone puts into their track. Period!

                        Them boys know what it takes and take the extra measures to get it done.

                        I would pay extra to see a summer nationals race at Boone!

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Hoosier_Dirt View Post
                          Not necessarily a requirement, just wondering how many on here (if any) have actually prepared a dirt track. Myself, I have helped a few times, on different tracks, and there are so many variables that go into it, its not just cut and dry as some think. Some things work better on some surfaces than others.
                          My feeling is that if the poeple complaining were handed the keys to prep a track, they'd see its not so easy.
                          Sure it's not an easy job, but a lot of tracks do put in a pretty good effort and the ones that don't, deserve all due criticism. It's a shame to knowingly give fans and drivers inferior tracks to race on, when they COULD be an honest effort to make it better and some don't because they can get away with it, for various reasons.

                          Criticism can be constructive and actually help, when compared to silence and growing disinterests in tracks that don't have a clue, wondering why their crowds are dying a slow death along with the track itself.
                          Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 05-08-2015, 07:44 PM.

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                          • Late_Model_Mark
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 2321

                            #28
                            Interesting comments, there were 3 guys I interviewed Sat night before the races as I do each race night to interact with the fans who were from Illinois. All regulars at Farmer City,Fairbury, and sometimes Macon. After the races they told me that was one incredible night of racing as they had never seen LM racing on red dirt. These boys had been going to the races for 30 years and really enjoyed their experience. Dirt prep in the South is different than other parts, ya can't farm it like Boone, or dig it up like in California, or water it like other tracks. Also they were pleased that on Friday night we has 114 Late Models and Saturday we only had 97. We had more Late Models than some tracks have in total car count.

                            Try track prep sometime, I've helped and it is a pain in the keyster.




                            Late Model Mark
                            Talladega Short Track Announcer

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                            • ClampedUp
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 1131

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post

                              Criticism can be constructive and actually help, when compared to silence and growing disinterests in tracks that don't have a clue, wondering why their crowds are dying a slow death along with the track itself.
                              That comment perfectly describes a Western Pa. track operator ( he's far from a promoter) and his track that once held one of the premier dirt late model races in the Country.

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                              • Nasty55
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 2611

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Speed Zone View Post
                                You CAN NOT beat the effort Boone puts into their track. Period!

                                Them boys know what it takes and take the extra measures to get it done.

                                I would pay extra to see a summer nationals race at Boone!


                                You hit the gold with this statement... Boone definitely knows how to farm down a good racing surface for sure and if some of you guys haven't ever been to boone you should bucket list it..
                                If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!

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