Will the DTWC have the largest car count this year?

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  • Racing4Fun
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 55

    #31
    Originally posted by GEAR_HEAD View Post
    Carl is known for his Dolly Parton purses. Those don't draw more cars, just more hype.

    What a total idiot. If it wasn't for Carl purses would be nowhere close to what they are now.
    Earl gets all the credit for being the great innovator. For starting the big purses. Nobody ever says boy that Earl pays or now I guess I should say paid Dolly Parton purses.

    Well here's a little secret. Earl didn't start the big purses Carl did. Carl and the DTWC paid $30,000 to win while the Worlds 100 was only paying $14,000 to win. Carl and the DTWC were paying $50,000
    to win while the Worlds 100 was only paying $16,000 to win. Oh and the DTWC was paying a thousand to start when the Worlds 100 was only paying $100 to start. But you cut Carl down and say he pays Dolly Parton purses? You're an idiot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • B_K
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 3236

      #32
      Originally posted by Racing4Fun View Post
      What a total idiot. If it wasn't for Carl purses would be nowhere close to what they are now.
      Earl gets all the credit for being the great innovator. For starting the big purses. Nobody ever says boy that Earl pays or now I guess I should say paid Dolly Parton purses.

      Well here's a little secret. Earl didn't start the big purses Carl did. Carl and the DTWC paid $30,000 to win while the Worlds 100 was only paying $14,000 to win. Carl and the DTWC were paying $50,000
      to win while the Worlds 100 was only paying $16,000 to win. Oh and the DTWC was paying a thousand to start when the Worlds 100 was only paying $100 to start. But you cut Carl down and say he pays Dolly Parton purses? You're an idiot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      He's done a lot for the sport no doubt. Right now though, that purse is top heavy.

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      • Racing4Fun
        Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 55

        #33
        Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
        No, it won't surpass the World 100. They added 50k to the top. If they didn't add it anywhere else, it's of no benefit. You wanna increase car count, $50 k to win, 3500-4000 to start. This is just PR hoopla. Never understood this logic anyhow. A pay out like the Show Me USED TO BE, is what you should shoot for. Then you'll get cars.
        The DTWC had the second most late models of any race last year so they already get cars.

        Will they have more than the Worlds 100 this year or any other year? My guess is it is highly unlikely but if you went by purse or who paid what first it should.

        But your argument doesn't hold water because that "Show Me" that you refer to never had more cars than the Worlds 100. Not even close and I was there for 3 of them and the crowd was pitiful. I talked to a guy that worked for the Gibsons and he told me they had lost money on every "Show Me". I think that is the main reason they got out.

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        • Racing4Fun
          Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 55

          #34
          Originally posted by Aluminium Block View Post
          I think this was $50,000 wasted. We are just going to pay a higher ticket price to see the same thing.

          I have already ordered my tickets and you are right. $60 for 3 days in the pits is pretty outrageous.

          And although I went with a pit pass he even has the nerve to be charging $50 for general admission for the three days.

          Especially since all they are having is a $100,000 to win late model feature, a 3 thousand to win Jim Dunn non qualifier race and a $4,000 to win 400 hundred to start mod race that only had 90 something cars last year.

          Carl should be ashamed for ripping people off with prices like that. I think you should call him and tell him how bad you think you're getting shafted.

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          • B_K
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 3236

            #35
            Originally posted by Racing4Fun View Post
            I have already ordered my tickets and you are right. $60 for 3 days in the pits is pretty outrageous.

            And although I went with a pit pass he even has the nerve to be charging $50 for general admission for the three days.

            Especially since all they are having is a $100,000 to win late model feature, a 3 thousand to win Jim Dunn non qualifier race and a $4,000 to win 400 hundred to start mod race that only had 90 something cars last year.

            Carl should be ashamed for ripping people off with prices like that. I think you should call him and tell him how bad you think you're getting shafted.
            Why don't you tell him for us? He's obviously a friend or family member. Either that or you just like calling people idiots for having an opinion.

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            • Racing4Fun
              Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 55

              #36
              Originally posted by B_K View Post
              Why don't you tell him for us? He's obviously a friend or family member. Either that or you just like calling people idiots for having an opinion.
              No, I like calling people idiots for being idiots. Like I said I see the people on here saying the DTWC is a dolly Parton purse but let's put it on here with something to compare it to like the World or the Dream that nobody ever says that about. Why do you think that is B_K? The only two races that I know in all of dirt racing that really pays better throughout is Cedar Lake and Knoxville. I might be wrong but I don't think their total purse will be as much as the DTWC. And the thing that most people don't even take into consideration is when the DTWC is run. The third weekend of Oct. when the odds of bad weather are so much greater than bad weather at any of the other big shows. I guess that would have have to make what he does an even bigger gamble.

              Oh and when he started it, he didn't have the luxury of the greatest dirt track in the world like Earl did at Eldora, he did it at a dump like Pennsboro.

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              • Racing4Fun
                Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 55

                #37
                Originally posted by Wet & Tacky
                2014

                Event Purse

                Dirt Track World Championship Purse:

                1. $50,000, 2. $15,000, 3. $10,000, 4. $7,000, 5. $5,000, 6. $3,500, 7. $3,200, 8. $3,000, 9. $2,800, 10. $2,500, 11. $2,450, 12. $2,400, 13. $2,350, 14. $2,300, 15. $2,250, 16. $2,200, 17. $2,150, 18. $2,100, 19. $2,075, 20. $2,060, 21. $2,050, 22. $2,040, 23. $2,030, 24. $2,020, 25. $2,010, 26. $2,000.


                10th to 26th only has a $500 difference.


                I said compare Wet & Tacky. Where is the World or the Dream or the North/South? I don't see you on here bashing any of them. Oh that's right, you just joined. Now you too can be a 4M GENIOUS and tell somebody that I feel sure has been promoting longer than you have been living how he needs to pay and how much. Here's a plan, why don't you get a racetrack and show us all how it needs to be done. As smart as you are, I don't see how it can miss.

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                • chupp n bloomer fan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 11526

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Racing4Fun View Post
                  The DTWC had the second most late models of any race last year so they already get cars.

                  Will they have more than the Worlds 100 this year or any other year? My guess is it is highly unlikely but if you went by purse or who paid what first it should.

                  But your argument doesn't hold water because that "Show Me" that you refer to never had more cars than the Worlds 100. Not even close and I was there for 3 of them and the crowd was pitiful. I talked to a guy that worked for the Gibsons and he told me they had lost money on every "Show Me". I think that is the main reason they got out.
                  Number one, it's The WORLD 100.

                  Number two, I said their location is better than West Plains, as it is. They are adding the 50k, it's not as if we are telling them to add the 50k. Simply don't throw it all at the top. Need to learn to read a touch better.

                  Number three, second is the first loser.
                  Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                  • GEAR_HEAD
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3107

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Racing4Fun View Post
                    What a total idiot. If it wasn't for Carl purses would be nowhere close to what they are now.
                    Earl gets all the credit for being the great innovator. For starting the big purses. Nobody ever says boy that Earl pays or now I guess I should say paid Dolly Parton purses.

                    Well here's a little secret. Earl didn't start the big purses Carl did. Carl and the DTWC paid $30,000 to win while the Worlds 100 was only paying $14,000 to win. Carl and the DTWC were paying $50,000
                    to win while the Worlds 100 was only paying $16,000 to win. Oh and the DTWC was paying a thousand to start when the Worlds 100 was only paying $100 to start. But you cut Carl down and say he pays Dolly Parton purses? You're an idiot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    OK, what is your relation to Carl? It doesn't matter what it pays to win, the purse can still be top heavy. You're claiming that a promoter can have a $100,000 to win show and pay $2,000 for second and they should be heralded as some kind of hero? Now who's the idiot? Yep, you.

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                    • hucktyson
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 1903

                      #40
                      What drivers have you arm chair promoters talked to that said if the start money was increased they would come ??? 100k to win will have a field stacked with killers and knowing that will keep people away more than and extra thousand to start would bring them

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                      • B_K
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3236

                        #41
                        Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
                        What drivers have you arm chair promoters talked to that said if the start money was increased they would come ??? 100k to win will have a field stacked with killers and knowing that will keep people away more than and extra thousand to start would bring them
                        Armchair promoters.....pretty solid. Is that like in the way drivers? They have the $$$ to have a car. Unfortunately they don't have the talent for the street stock ranks?

                        You think adding 50 on top brings in more than adding $$$ throughout the field? There's 15-20 guys who have a legit chance to win. They're coming for 50k to win. You've failed to mention any names that would be going now that wasn't going for the old purse.
                        Last edited by B_K; 05-14-2015, 07:11 AM.

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                        • Dante Toledo, OH
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 1157

                          #42
                          I understand the top heavy argument, but I don't think he added it to bring in more cars. He will get a few outlaws drivers that probably weren't there last year. But $100,000 to win looks good on the posters and flyers, i think its more to bring in more fans and get more attention. I am just glad i live in Ohio, home of the World 100, the Dream, and the DTWC. Also home of the Kings Royal, and Hell tour finale. And (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) close to the North/South and the Firecracker. I love this time of year. And I don't care what they pay the guy that finishes 14th.
                          Go Buckeyes!!!

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                          • hygty
                            Banned
                            • May 2015
                            • 586

                            #43
                            car count and pay don't compute I 've seen shows that pay 2k and get 50 cars seen shows that paid 10 k and get 20 cars just to many factors involved

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                            • hucktyson
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 1903

                              #44
                              And you have failed to give me names of
                              These top drivers clamoring to show up if only it paid a couple hundred more to start ... Who have you talked to that fans want to watch that have told you that only 2k to start when most local shows pay 1000-1500 to win isn't enough for them to show up ???

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                              • hucktyson
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 1903

                                #45
                                Hygty you are absolutely right paying more doesn't guarantee more cars like paying workers more doesn't guarantee more production ...

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