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  • MUD MAESTRO
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 5231

    #31
    Babb muscles his way underneath Unzicker for 2nd then finesses Pierce for the win. Glad I went, big crowd and unbelieable 48 LM"s. Luv those guys ruuning the hairy top side. Anyone notice the fine run by gray beard Ray Guss Jr?

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    • skids
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1003

      #32
      Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
      Those 2 moves were the highlights of the night for sure. There was just nothing to be found coming off turn 2. Babb was one of the few to figure that out early.
      Only other highlights was the slider in the hornet class, and lil Bobby booting that back runner just before he got passed by Babb.
      Did you hear Bobby's explanation? He said he was getting ready to go wide on him and he "let off the gas" so Bobby got into him. Makes perfect sense. Drivers are always getting off the gas coming out of a turn.

      BTW, where did the "black flag" thread disappear to????

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      • MotoMatt
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 314

        #33
        It is now located in butthurtville...

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        • Scott Boesel
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 851

          #34
          I think its crazy that on a Tuesday night for $5k you get almost 50 cars and when i went to cedar lake they had maybe 25 cars for a Saturday night and $10k to win thats crazy. All i can say is Illinois people You guys are so lucky lol

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          • blncfn57
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 2013

            #35
            Originally posted by skids View Post
            Did you hear Bobby's explanation? He said he was getting ready to go wide on him and he "let off the gas" so Bobby got into him. Makes perfect sense. Drivers are always getting off the gas coming out of a turn.

            BTW, where did the "black flag" thread disappear to????
            you mean that car that was getting lapped? How come it's ok to run over a lap car at fairbury, but not peoria? oh, i forgot, it's all about who is doing the running over. I'm not sure who the guy was or how he made the race, but I think he finished like 6 laps down.

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            • Highside Hustler25
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 12971

              #36
              Originally posted by skids View Post
              Did you hear Bobby's explanation? He said he was getting ready to go wide on him and he "let off the gas" so Bobby got into him. Makes perfect sense. Drivers are always getting off the gas coming out of a turn.

              BTW, where did the "black flag" thread disappear to????
              I just find it interesting how some zig and zag their way thru traffic, and some just go right thru ya. Shannon Babb made 2 awesome passes last night and never made contact. When he went under Unzicker, there couldn't have been a inch between cars but never touched.
              Not sayin Bobby did it intentionally but he followed the lapped car around for at least a lap or 2. Plan your pass before you get there.

              The black flag thread? That one probably got deleted last night around 10:27PM or around lap 19
              8/13/16

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              • DLM06
                Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 69

                #37
                So Babb and Pierce both cause cautions and get their spots back??? As long as your running up front you can run over whoever and whenever you want? How about 2nd place ? 3rd? If the purse is big enough? How bad can the car get tore up? The driver? When is not ok? Doesn't take much skill to stay out in front that way. Is UMP the only group that allows this?

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                • skids
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1003

                  #38
                  Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
                  you mean that car that was getting lapped? How come it's ok to run over a lap car at fairbury, but not peoria? oh, i forgot, it's all about who is doing the running over. I'm not sure who the guy was or how he made the race, but I think he finished like 6 laps down.
                  Yep. That's the one. The same one everybody BUT Bobby found a clean way around.

                  I know you don't think there is a difference, but I see a difference between attempting a pass in traffic and dooring a guy (i.e. Babb a FALS) and just flat out dooring a guy into the wall when nobody is around (i.e. Pierce at FALS). I also see a difference between dooring a lap car attempting to get around them IN TRAFFIC and PUNTING them from behind and claiming they let off the gas coming OUT of a corner.

                  I happen to disagree with UMP's disregard for lapped cars getting taken out. I would have no problem seeing the leader put to the tail for doing so. And while I think Babb's was a different situation with Thorston at FALS because he didn't "take him out" (spin him). I wouldn't have disagreed too loudly if Babb was put back for it.

                  Lapped cars are part of racing. If a driver can figure a way to use them as a pick, more power to them. I do not think they should be allowed to be punted at will because they are slower than the field and the guy who punts them get his spot back. If he's that slow FIND A WAY AROUND HIM!
                  Last edited by skids; 06-24-2015, 12:26 PM.

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                  • Highside Hustler25
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12971

                    #39
                    Originally posted by skids View Post
                    Yep. That's the one. The same one everybody BUT Bobby found a clean way around.

                    I know you don't think there is a difference, but I see a difference between attempting a pass in traffic and dooring a guy (i.e. Babb a FALS) and just flat out dooring a guy into the wall when nobody is around (i.e. Pierce at FALS). I also see a difference between dooring a lap car attempting to get around them IN TRAFFIC and PUNTING them from behind and claiming they let off the gas coming OUT of a corner.

                    I happen to disagree with UMP's disregard for lapped cars getting taken out. I would have no problem seeing the leader put to the tail for doing so. And while I think Babb's was a different situation with Thorston at FALS because he didn't "take him out" (spin him). I wouldn't have disagreed too loudly if Babb was put back for it.

                    Lapped cars are part of racing. If a driver can figure a way to use them as a pick, more power to them. I do not think they should be allowed to be punted at will because they are slower than the field and the guy who punts them get his spot back. If he's that slow FIND A WAY AROUND HIM!
                    Thank You for that assessment skids. UMP should copy, enlarge, frame and post this at all of the drivers meetings. That last sentence sums up the whole story here.
                    8/13/16

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                    • 800hp
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 727

                      #40
                      We had a great time at the race. I thought the LM feature racing was great! There were a bunch of cars running the high side trying to march forward. Got the feature on vid if anyone is interested. Nice to see a 4m'er racing last night...The 09 of Riddell. Nice job! I did go to the pits and talked with Bobby briefly. Great kid, was more than happy to take some time to chat about the race despite all the teams hurrying to get to the next gig. Snapped a photo of him and my son. He was very personable so thanks to him for taking some time to talk. As far as the punting goes I think I got that on vid so maybe once it's posted it will be easier to see what all was going on. I recall it was pretty tight when that happened. Great job by Peoria track crew getting the track in great shape. Even the hornet races were good. And how about Mike Harrison? Man that dude was flying. Great time for sure!

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                      • LMMS24
                        Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 69

                        #41
                        Originally posted by hygty
                        the track was one groove last night there is the problem
                        Babb didn't have any problem blowin by Pierce and Unzicker on the top...

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                        • Fuzzy Focus
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 23

                          #42
                          Doesn't matter how many laps it took him, you only have to lead one!!

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                          • Olskool23
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 16

                            #43
                            Babb spoke highly of Bobby in post race last night. Seems only the haters on here have the problem.

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                            • Bubstr
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3734

                              #44
                              Originally posted by hygty
                              the track was one groove last night there is the problem
                              There was a high side on 3 and 4, not so much on 1 and 2.

                              The 124 that got punted, was in everyone's way. He needs to practice up a bit before he tackles the Summer Nationals. There is just way too much speed difference between him and the field. The leaders where getting on him in about 3 laps. When your closing that fast, things happen fast.

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                              • Highside Hustler25
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 12971

                                #45
                                Originally posted by hygty
                                the track was one groove last night there is the problem
                                You have no clue as you were not there. Please shut the #### up.

                                Ask Shannon Babb if it was a 1 groove track? Or Wenger? Or Feger?

                                The heats were on the bottom.

                                The feature had both. The top was the fastest way around in 3 and 4. The bottom was just a tick faster than the top in 1 and 2.
                                8/13/16

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