I watch a lot of DoD and go to a lot of races. There are way to many drivers jumping starts then get penalized. Sometimes poll just doesn't fire and everyone brake checks and hes gone, sometimes row 2 or 3 will be even with poll at flag stand. Here's a thought I came up with after the 5th start of a crate race. Why can't the tracks put a green light where drivers can see it. So when the flag man flips the switch to green its on. This would stop turn 3 starts and drivers trying to blast to front on the start from row 3. Just a thought what does everyone else think?
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That is how central IL flagman Swede Gaiellert did it for years....actually in the 50's he would start races by standing in the middle of the track, all drivers lined up, jump up in the air waving the green flag, (standing start) they would all drive around him and the race was on. Eventually he moved onto modern times with the flying starts, BUT if the drivers could not get it right after the second time, he would stop them, with red flag in the air and walk off towards the flagman's stand and THEN jump up and throw the green.....did not happen very often, did not have to happen very often....
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That would actually be pretty cool to see........Originally posted by MEE View PostTHIS BRINGS BACK SOME VERY OLD MEMORYS. A long time ago there was a track in east ky. that got tired of trying to start them one night that they lined um up at flag stand ,and started them from dead start. That was different.EVERYBODY HAS A GAME PLAN, UNTIL THEY GET PUNCHED IN THE FACE.......M.T
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All you need is a flagman with the authority and the guts to call back the race and put the "jumper" to the tail. It wouldn't happen very often once it is established that it WILL be enforced.Originally posted by falsfanb12 View PostI watch a lot of DoD and go to a lot of races. There are way to many drivers jumping starts then get penalized. Sometimes poll just doesn't fire and everyone brake checks and hes gone, sometimes row 2 or 3 will be even with poll at flag stand. Here's a thought I came up with after the 5th start of a crate race. Why can't the tracks put a green light where drivers can see it. So when the flag man flips the switch to green its on. This would stop turn 3 starts and drivers trying to blast to front on the start from row 3. Just a thought what does everyone else think?
The problem is there are too many flagmen and/or other officials in charge that would rather be butt kissers to the drivers instead of enforcing the rules.
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Back in the late 1960's Peoria Speedway started them THREE WIDE from a standing start. Not sure when they did away with that policy but it made for some very interesting door to door action through turns 1 & 2.
That 4 wide salute deal they do now would be a great way to start a dirt late model race. I wish they'd start them that way sometime.
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That was D!ck Wilson as the flagman. They stopped doing it in the early to mid 70's. it was something to see.Originally posted by CIRF View PostBack in the late 1960's Peoria Speedway started them THREE WIDE from a standing start. Not sure when they did away with that policy but it made for some very interesting door to door action through turns 1 & 2.
That 4 wide salute deal they do now would be a great way to start a dirt late model race. I wish they'd start them that way sometime.
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Wasn't Lloyd Caldwell the flagman at Peoria for quite a while?Originally posted by Baddboy1 View PostThat was D!ck Wilson as the flagman. They stopped doing it in the early to mid 70's. it was something to see.
And yes Baddboy, it was truly a sight, especially come feature time when there were 20 some cars lined up 3 abreast getting into 1 & 2.
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noticed that as well watching DOD. a lot of drivers penalized when the polesitter doesn't go, in all types of series. I like your idea!!Originally posted by falsfanb12 View PostI watch a lot of DoD and go to a lot of races. There are way to many drivers jumping starts then get penalized. Sometimes poll just doesn't fire and everyone brake checks and hes gone, sometimes row 2 or 3 will be even with poll at flag stand. Here's a thought I came up with after the 5th start of a crate race. Why can't the tracks put a green light where drivers can see it. So when the flag man flips the switch to green its on. This would stop turn 3 starts and drivers trying to blast to front on the start from row 3. Just a thought what does everyone else think?
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Place an orange cone on the track and on the outside wall/fence. Place both of those orange cones 100' from the flagstand towards turn 4 to establish "the starting zone" that is between those orange cones and the flagstand.
Place the on track orange cone far enough from the outside wall for 2 wide passage with a little extra space.
Cars move slowly 2 wide side by side and don't get on the gas WFO until the green flag flies and the green flag could fly when the front row is anywhere inside "the starting zone."
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