Thoroughness and integrity of LOLMDS & WoO tech?

[deez lug nuts]

Just how far into it do they get when teching cars? A lot of obvious easy to see body rules are not enforced so like what else is not enforced in regards to electronics, engines, shocks, chassis dimensions etc.?

[BerckFan]

You say there are "alot" of obvious body rules not being enforced. Care to expand on what body rules are being ignored? Thanks

[dirtyboy]

When someone starts winning alot, they start looking harder.

[deez lug nuts]

You say there are "alot" of obvious body rules not being enforced. Care to expand on what body rules are being ignored? Thanks

Bodies aren't made to be level from side to side across in the front end/hood area. There's skateboard ditch dishing.
Roofs are slanted.
Some spoiler supports are mounted on the decking too far from sail panels.
Decking in the middle of cars.
No numbers on roofs.
Bowing out of doors and quarter panels seems extreme occasionally.
Height/overall width of fender flares.
Some not equal sized window sail panel cutouts.
Lips, edge of body rolls and whatever else.

At times some of this stuff is easily noticed like "How did that pass tech?"

[Okfine]

Bodies aren't made to be level from side to side across in the front end/hood area. There's skateboard ditch dishing.
Roofs are slanted.
Some spoiler supports are mounted on the decking too far from sail panels.
Decking in the middle of cars.
No numbers on roofs.
Bowing out of doors and quarter panels seems extreme occasionally.
Height/overall width of fender flares.
Some not equal sized window sail panel cutouts.
Lips, edge of body rolls and whatever else.

At times some of this stuff is easily noticed like "How did that pass tech?"

All true deez......

I wonder the same thing ??

[Josh Bayko]

Any time I've ever seen cars get "teched" pre-race, all I've ever really seen them do is measure deck height, spoiler height, track width and wheelbase and make sure the cars got the appropriate stickers and send them on their way.

[Okfine]

Any time I've ever seen cars get "teched" pre-race, all I've ever really seen them do is measure deck height, spoiler height, track width and wheelbase and make sure the cars got the appropriate stickers and send them on their way.

And sometimes they don't even check deck..........until they start winning , ala Moyer at east bay this year.

[Josh Bayko]

And sometimes they don't even check deck..........until they start winning , ala Moyer at east bay this year.

A couple years ago at the Firecracker 100, during the second preliminary show (the one that was run Saturday afternoon because Friday night rained out), the WoO decided to check deck heights on each car as it rolled off the scale after they time trialed.

17 cars had their time disallowed, including most of the series regulars. They had checked deck heights two days prior and everybody passed.

[huskerdirt]

Bodies aren't made to be level from side to side across in the front end/hood area. There's skateboard ditch dishing.
Roofs are slanted.
Some spoiler supports are mounted on the decking too far from sail panels.
Decking in the middle of cars.
No numbers on roofs.
Bowing out of doors and quarter panels seems extreme occasionally.
Height/overall width of fender flares.
Some not equal sized window sail panel cutouts.
Lips, edge of body rolls and whatever else.

At times some of this stuff is easily noticed like "How did that pass tech?"

If you are worried about the roof being slanted, you are looking at the wrong part of the car.

Sails panels cant be cutout to the exact as the other because the roof mounted to the left which makes support panels different sizes.

I'm not sure where you are going with spoiler supports complaint. That makes no sense.

Nobody has enforced the number on the roof rule in probably 10 years. Heck my local track doesn't even enforce it.

Show me a picture of where a car has excessive bowing of the body panels


Just curious have you ever watched them tech cars before a race. Most of your complaints seem like you are nit picking from the stands.

[deez lug nuts]

If you are worried about the roof being slanted, you are looking at the wrong part of the car.

Sails panels cant be cutout to the exact as the other because the roof mounted to the left which makes support panels different sizes.

I'm not sure where you are going with spoiler supports complaint. That makes no sense.

Nobody has enforced the number on the roof rule in probably 10 years. Heck my local track doesn't even enforce it.

Show me a picture of where a car has excessive bowing of the body panels


Just curious have you ever watched them tech cars before a race. Most of your complaints seem like you are nit picking from the stands.

Roofs are supposed to be stock looking and mounted parallel with the body. No flat/slanted roofs allowed.

Even with sail panel size differences the sail panel cutouts are to be the same size. Wind up with more outer material around the cutout on one side. Some rules give a 1" cut out variance between sides.

Sail panel to spoiler side support gap must be 3" min 4" max.

Enough keyboard pecking at you that's all you get and you go have fun looking for body rules infractions in recent car pictures now ya' here?

[huskerdirt]

Roofs are supposed to be stock looking and mounted parallel with the body. No flat/slanted roofs allowed.

Even with sail panel size differences the sail panel cutouts are to be the same size. Wind up with more outer material around the cutout on one side. Some rules give a 1" cut out variance between sides.

Sail panel to spoiler side support gap must be 3" min 4" max.

Enough keyboard pecking at you that's all you get and you go have fun looking for body rules infractions in recent car pictures now ya' here?

All you did is copy rules.....

You didn't answer any questions I asked you.

I asked you to show me a picture sense is clearly visible from the stands..... Still waiting.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If you are worried about the roof being slanted, you are looking at the wrong part of the car.

Sails panels cant be cutout to the exact as the other because the roof mounted to the left which makes support panels different sizes.

I'm not sure where you are going with spoiler supports complaint. That makes no sense.

Nobody has enforced the number on the roof rule in probably 10 years. Heck my local track doesn't even enforce it.

Show me a picture of where a car has excessive bowing of the body panels


Just curious have you ever watched them tech cars before a race. Most of your complaints seem like you are nit picking from the stands.

It should be pretty easy to find the right door concave shaped. And the roof has been an issue for years. Really, most of the stuff he mentioned is legit.

And I don't understand the bouncing up and down on cars in tech to get the deck height to fit in the 1" tolerance. It is a joke.

[huskerdirt]

It should be pretty easy to find the right door concave shaped. And the roof has been an issue for years. Really, most of the stuff he mentioned is legit.

And I don't understand the bouncing up and down on cars in tech to get the deck height to fit in the 1" tolerance. It is a joke.

Yes they all have a little concave to them. But he said excessive. I want him to show me what he thought was excessive.

I don't see the issue with the roof. In the pits they all look as straight as everybody else. On the track they look slanted because the right right front is slammed down to the ground.

When Justin Asplin got caught with the deck height issue at the Show Me last year. He had a guy literally jumping on the deck to get it down. I'm like you I don't get it either.

We all despise NASCAR for all there rules. But yet we sit here and complain all the time about little rules not being enforced. It's impossible to thoroughly tech these cars at every race. There is just not enough time on a given night to do it. I don't see one car doing anything more than anybody else as far as the body configuration goes.

Racers are gonna push the gray area as far as they can. The series job is to write the rule book. The drivers job is to put a car on the track with there interpretation of the rule.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Yes they all have a little concave to them. But he said excessive. I want him to show me what he thought was excessive.

I don't see the issue with the roof. In the pits they all look as straight as everybody else. On the track they look slanted because the right right front is slammed down to the ground.

When Justin Asplin got caught with the deck height issue at the Show Me last year. He had a guy literally jumping on the deck to get it down. I'm like you I don't get it either.

We all despise NASCAR for all there rules. But yet we sit here and complain all the time about little rules not being enforced. It's impossible to thoroughly tech these cars at every race. There is just not enough time on a given night to do it. I don't see one car doing anything more than anybody else as far as the body configuration goes.

Racers are gonna push the gray area as far as they can. The series job is to write the rule book. The drivers job is to put a car on the track with there interpretation of the rule.

They are not level in the pits. It does look worse on the track, I give you that. Instead of policing it, the rules have been amended to allow a 3" height allowance when measuring the various edges.

[huskerdirt]

They are not level in the pits. It does look worse on the track, I give you that. Instead of policing it, the rules have been amended to allow a 3" height allowance when measuring the various edges.

I didn't say they were perfectly level. I said as straight as everybody else..... I should've said they all have a slight slant to them, but there isn't one that's more than another. At least from what I've seen.