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  • tsand
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 528

    #1

    new rules for 2016

    The hot topic at the north south was that Lucas oil and WOO is considering a one shock per corner rule or a five shock maximum rule. I think this rule is long over due the cost of shocks and the technology involved is way out of hand.
  • MotoMatt
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 314

    #2
    I haven't been around a late model in a while, but how many shocks are on an open late model these days? I was thinking depending on the setup there are 5 maybe 6 in some cases, am I completely off base?

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    • tsand
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 528

      #3
      Recent picture of Davenport car shows 5 on left rear
      .instead of rods on four bar they are using shocks.

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      • HoosierDirtFan
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 22186

        #4
        Originally posted by tsand View Post
        Recent picture of Davenport car shows 5 on left rear
        .instead of rods on four bar they are using shocks.
        Anyone have a picture of this?
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        • zyoung25
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 8943

          #5
          I thought it was funny Kevin said "took a picture of last week's design....." Something new on the horizon...get your cameras out folks.

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          • AnothaBenchRacer
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 542

            #6
            Originally posted by tsand View Post
            Recent picture of Davenport car shows 5 on left rear
            .instead of rods on four bar they are using shocks.
            This is false, although they have tried replacing a 4 link rod with a shock and it absolutely did not work.

            They've developed a bird cage for the LR that allows a mounting point of a smaller external canister shock.
            Just anotha guy on 4m who think's they know what they're talking about...

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            • Bubstr
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3734

              #7
              I was told the extra shock on the Left rear was not a shock but a limiter. Possibly a limiter with a bump stop or something like that. Most all use some kind of limiter to control how far you get on the bar. There was a post it the tech section about it a while ago.

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              • zeroracing
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1014

                #8
                To answer MotoMatt, a typical car has 6 shocks on it. one on LF, RF and RR, one on the torque arm and one Left Rear in-front, is what most cars run. Of Course some guys run more, some guys run less but 90% of the field will have those 6.

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                • mccreadiefan39
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 801

                  #9
                  If true I'm 100% in favor of a 1 shock per corner rule

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                  • Bubstr
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3734

                    #10
                    They have that rule in some of the econo mod classes. You should race in one of them.

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                    • blncfn57
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2013

                      #11
                      ....... because a $1000 shock is the problem on 45-$80,000 cars with $60,000 engines..... smh

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14304

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                        I was told the extra shock on the Left rear was not a shock but a limiter. Possibly a limiter with a bump stop or something like that. Most all use some kind of limiter to control how far you get on the bar. There was a post it the tech section about it a while ago.
                        Its no limiter. At least not in that sense.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14304

                          #13
                          Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
                          ....... because a $1000 shock is the problem on 45-$80,000 cars with $60,000 engines..... smh
                          Not saying I agree with the rule, but a chassis that doesn't work as good needs less power. The engines that guys are using today would be unuseable 15 years ago.
                          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                          • blncfn57
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2013

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                            Not saying I agree with the rule, but a chassis that doesn't work as good needs less power. The engines that guys are using today would be unuseable 15 years ago.
                            UMP modifieds have a one shock per wheel rule (plus 8" tires) and some still run 800+ HP engines. I'm not a big proponent of change (because I don't have a realistic answer to fixing the problem). I will say tho, if a sanctioning body is SERIOUS about saving money, they are going to have to be more drastic. These rules they are coming up with are doing very little to address the problem. I believe any rule that is going to be effective is going to require detailed inspections and sanctioning bodies today do not possess the knowledge to do so. They want rules that they can check by a walk by inspection and the racers will always be ahead in that game.

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                            • powerslide
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2696

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                              Not saying I agree with the rule, but a chassis that doesn't work as good needs less power. The engines that guys are using today would be unuseable 15 years ago.
                              Curious what kind of numbers you are hearing.

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