5 wins in 6 races for Richards

[W2Racing09]

Richards over Owens?

Is the criteria the last 2 weeks performance? talent? current season?

I would think the criteria is performance this season isn't it? Although I don't think career wise it is an automatic win for Owens. This season however Owens has been nothing short of mediocre, and while Richards has had some dry spells he has still put together a great season with something like 10 or 11 big (IE decent money and decent competition, no local or regional races) wins total, I think the very least of which was $6,000 to win at Screven.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

So you run off at the mouth, are wrong, and still wanna make dumb comments? Simply looking at the Lucas Oil Schedule is all ya needed to do. The top guys from each series are just as good as one another. And yes, once the cat is outta the bag, which never takes long, the 6 won't be so dominant.

I never said josh didnt win a lucas race. I said well see when he runs a lucas race.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I would think the criteria is performance this season isn't it? Although I don't think career wise it is an automatic win for Owens. This season however Owens has been nothing short of mediocre, and while Richards has had some dry spells he has still put together a great season with something like 10 or 11 big (IE decent money and decent competition, no local or regional races) wins total, I think the very least of which was $6,000 to win at Screven.

Thanks,
Jeff.

I don't seem to recall Richards even sniffing the number of crown jewel wins that Owens has.

[W2Racing09]

As do I, but everyone has an opinion.......even jeffs shows that Lucas top ten appear to be better.

I wouldn't have put Overton ahead or t Mac ahead........mine looks like Lucas 8-woo 2.

Again.we all have them.

T-Mac over B-Shepp is a coin toss really. I think they have had fairly similar seasons. It could go to B-Shepp just as easily as T-Mac. Even so that would only be 7-3 in favor of Lucas, and there were some other hard decisions like Eckert and EPJ that could have gone either way too.

As far as Overton over Landers, I'm looking at the fact that Overton has wins on the season. Landers I think has one MLRA win, Overton has I think (again going by memory) more than a few regional wins on the season. I would take Overton 10 times out of 10 over Landers, I think he is a much better wheelman.

[W2Racing09]

I don't seem to recall Richards even sniffing the number of crown jewel wins that Owens has.

Owens has crown jewel wins this season? As far as I know that is what we are talking about. If we are making a list of all time best drivers for WoO and Lucas then the list would look a hell of a lot different.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[huskerdirt]

Richards has 10 wins. 9 WoO and 1 Lucas.

Owens has 3 wins. 2 of those were Az. Owens last win came in late April.

If I'm being strictly off this season(which I believe is W2 is doing), I'm giving the nod to Richards right now.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Owens has crown jewel wins this season? As far as I know that is what we are talking about. If we are making a list of all time best drivers for WoO and Lucas then the list would look a hell of a lot different.

Thanks,
Jeff.

I was responding to the fact you said they were close, career-wise.

Yes, Richards has had a better year, although against much weaker competition.

[Okfine]

T-Mac over B-Shepp is a coin toss really. I think they have had fairly similar seasons. It could go to B-Shepp just as easily as T-Mac. Even so that would only be 7-3 in favor of Lucas, and there were some other hard decisions like Eckert and EPJ that could have gone either way too.

As far as Overton over Landers, I'm looking at the fact that Overton has wins on the season. Landers I think has one MLRA win, Overton has I think (again going by memory) more than a few regional wins on the season. I would take Overton 10 times out of 10 over Landers, I think he is a much better wheelman.

7 to 3 out of a possible 10 is a skunking Jeff.......might as well say 70 to 30 , 700 to 300 or 7000 to 3000.

It's a bad defeat.

Once you get Past Richards and Clanton ...........woo is pretty week this year.

I like Overton and dislike landers for the record.

[W2Racing09]

7 to 3 out of a possible 10 is a skunking Jeff.......might as well say 70 to 30 , 700 to 300 or 7000 to 3000.

It's a bad defeat.

Once you get Past Richards and Clanton ...........woo is pretty week this year.

I like Overton and dislike landers for the record.

Its not great, but people act like it is 9/10 or 10/10 or something. This is an odd season, but if Davenport was not on his run, and Lanigan hadn't left the WoO the gap would be the same as it has always been. The WoO had Richards/Lanigan (before the 2015 Clanton showed up) and the Lucas had Owens/Bloomquist (Before Davenport ran with them). There have been plenty of times when a WoO regular dominated a field of Lucas and WoO cars, just like there have been plenty of times the opposite has occurred.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[bleedblue55]

So you run off at the mouth, are wrong, and still wanna make dumb comments? Simply looking at the Lucas Oil Schedule is all ya needed to do. The top guys from each series are just as good as one another. And yes, once the cat is outta the bag, which never takes long, the 6 won't be so dominant.

Run off at the mouth, be wrong, still make dumb comments. Hey, I resemble that remark.

[Okfine]

Its not great, but people act like it is 9/10 or 10/10 or something. This is an odd season, but if Davenport was not on his run, and Lanigan hadn't left the WoO the gap would be the same as it has always been. The WoO had Richards/Lanigan (before the 2015 Clanton showed up) and the Lucas had Owens/Bloomquist (Before Davenport ran with them). There have been plenty of times when a WoO regular dominated a field of Lucas and WoO cars, just like there have been plenty of times the opposite has occurred.

Thanks,
Jeff.

I really don't think people discount the fact that woo has two very good drivers at the top of their heap.........the rest??? Just think that the rest of the Lucas series regulars far outshine the rest of the woo series regulars.

IMO.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Interesting Idea.
1. Shane Clanton/Jonathan Davenport
2. Josh Richards/Jimmy Owens
3. Chub Frank/Scott Bloomquist (LOL)
4. Rick Eckert/Earl Pearson Jr. (This one is close)
5. Morgan Bagley/Don Oneal
6. Tim McCreadie/Brandon Sheppard (This one is also close)
7. Chase Junghans/Dennis Erb Jr.
8. Frank Heckenast Jr/Steve Francis
9. Eric Wells/Eddie Carrier Jr.
10. Brandon Overton/Jared Landers

I'll take
1. Davenport
2. Richards
3. Bloomquist
4. Pearson Jr.
5. Oneal
6. T-Mac
7. Erb
8. Heckenast
9. Carrier
10. Overton

Lucas: 6, WoO: 4

Thanks,
Jeff.

I'll take a stab at it.

1.)Davenport
2.)Richards
3.)Bloomer
4.)Earl(Close)
5.)Don O'Neal
6.)Brandon Sheppard
7.)Dennis Erb Jr(close)
8.)Heckenast Jr
9.)Carrier Jr
10.)Overton

Lucas-7
WoO-3

[Highside Hustler25]

Richards over Owens?

Is the criteria the last 2 weeks performance? talent? current season?

If that's your criteria, than how can you pick JD over Clanton?
Davenports having a great year but prior to 2015, Clanton has him beat hands down.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

You might be right but we'll find out when he runs against lucas boys

No didnt research that. Forgive me as I am wrong! Was that a B MAIN that he won josh if not he must have got lucky.

I never said josh didnt win a lucas race. I said well see when he runs a lucas race.

East Bay was a Lucas race, he ran in it and won. If you're trying to say when he runs the full schedule, gotcha, but that's not what ya said.

[t3r3e3]

Interesting Idea.
1. Shane Clanton/Jonathan Davenport
2. Josh Richards/Jimmy Owens
3. Chub Frank/Scott Bloomquist (LOL)
4. Rick Eckert/Earl Pearson Jr. (This one is close)
5. Morgan Bagley/Don Oneal
6. Tim McCreadie/Brandon Sheppard (This one is also close)
7. Chase Junghans/Dennis Erb Jr.
8. Frank Heckenast Jr/Steve Francis
9. Eric Wells/Eddie Carrier Jr.
10. Brandon Overton/Jared Landers


I'll take
1. Davenport
2. Richards
3. Bloomquist
4. Pearson Jr.
5. Oneal
6. T-Mac
7. Erb
8. Heckenast
9. Carrier
10. Overton




Lucas: 6, WoO: 4

Thanks,
Jeff.

I would swap Bloomquist and Owens

1 Davenport
2 Bloomquist
3 Owens
4. Pearson Jr
5. O' Neal
6. Sheppard (running better than TMac)
7. Erb
8. Heckenast (running better than Francis overall)
9. Carrier Jr.
10. Landers ( is running far better in the Bloomquist than in last few seasons)

9-1 Lucas
Lucas has a far better roster this year, and has for several seasons. The competition at the average WoO race top to bottom isn't much stouter than the SummerNats shows when Billy Moyer drops in. Still 2-3 elite cars at the top in WoO when Lanigan is on his game, but a bunch of fillers to round out the WoO ranks.