Interesting interview with Chub re chassis switch

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  • Josh Bayko
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    • May 2007
    • 8749

    #16
    Double post.
    Last edited by Josh Bayko; 09-03-2015, 09:25 PM.
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    • Josh Bayko
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      • May 2007
      • 8749

      #17
      Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
      There is possibly another very good reason he has calmed down since earlier in the year ......reality check 101.

      And thanks.
      He was pretty calm in 2013 before he went on the shelf. I think when he got back in the car he was trying a little too hard to get back to form. If it wasn't Roberts that he ran over, it would have been somebody else.
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      • Barbecueboy
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        • Mar 2013
        • 18116

        #18
        Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
        He was pretty calm in 2013 before he went on the shelf. I think when he got back in the car he was trying a little too hard to get back to form.
        Good assessment.......
        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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        • mud duck
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 674

          #19
          Mark isn't going to hire anymore tech personnel as suggested. Josh's new found speed most likely wont be transferred or communicated to other Rocketeers!! This is about making Josh fast and winning some Crown Jewels!! Rocket doesn't have to worry about car sells on the regional or local level and that's where Mark makes the most of his money!! Heck, the Conley's alone pay all the utility bills and other expenses at the shop with all cars they buy. Mark is focused strictly on getting Josh some Crown Jewels to add to the trophy case! This is what guys like Lanigan and Chub are starting to realize. Does anyone think, Mark is going to reveal his secrets to guys sitting across the pits night in and night out?? It's a fine line to walk as car builder and owning one at the level of Josh. That's why guys are going else where. You can't beat Josh running the same thing as Josh!! And I'm pretty sure guys aren't getting all the information (to have the same as Josh)!! Only one out there might be BShepp who's very close to Mark. Can't blame the guy for wanting his son to win and do the very best!! And you can't blame guys for going elsewhere when they realize they might not be getting what they used to from Rocket.

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          • chupp n bloomer fan
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 11526

            #20
            Originally posted by mud duck View Post
            Mark isn't going to hire anymore tech personnel as suggested. Josh's new found speed most likely wont be transferred or communicated to other Rocketeers!! This is about making Josh fast and winning some Crown Jewels!! Rocket doesn't have to worry about car sells on the regional or local level and that's where Mark makes the most of his money!! Heck, the Conley's alone pay all the utility bills and other expenses at the shop with all cars they buy. Mark is focused strictly on getting Josh some Crown Jewels to add to the trophy case! This is what guys like Lanigan and Chub are starting to realize. Does anyone think, Mark is going to reveal his secrets to guys sitting across the pits night in and night out?? It's a fine line to walk as car builder and owning one at the level of Josh. That's why guys are going else where. You can't beat Josh running the same thing as Josh!! And I'm pretty sure guys aren't getting all the information (to have the same as Josh)!! Only one out there might be BShepp who's very close to Mark. Can't blame the guy for wanting his son to win and do the very best!! And you can't blame guys for going elsewhere when they realize they might not be getting what they used to from Rocket.
            Very good post. You will not get any of the chassis people's latest and greatest stuff. And if a certain someone is not working at Rocket come Speedweeks 2016 I'll be very shocked.
            Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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            • Barbecueboy
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              • Mar 2013
              • 18116

              #21
              Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
              Very good post. You will not get any of the chassis people's latest and greatest stuff. And if a certain someone is not working at Rocket come Speedweeks 2016 I'll be very shocked.
              Don't stand too near any water.......
              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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              • onlyfacts
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 395

                #22
                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                Don't stand too near any water.......
                Glad to ️see your back...everything is OK and Fine.
                Last edited by onlyfacts; 09-04-2015, 10:24 AM.

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #23
                  Originally posted by onlyfacts View Post
                  Glad to ️see your back...everything is OK and Fine.
                  It sure is......madden coming to eldora in a new longhorn, it's better than fine.

                  And thanks for the welcome back.
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • Raceready
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 4737

                    #24
                    Its a shame about Chub being thrown under the bus by Richards after all he did to build a thriving business for Rocket. Nearly every Rocket that raced at Stateline,Erie,McKean County,Raceway 7,Little Valley and scores of others in the mid west to north east region had some connection with Chub. At one time it was the hottest selling region. Also Mike Balzano,Steve Francis,Chub and a few other Rocketeers took Josh under their wing and nurtured him along.They did some of this at the test sessions they would hold at I-79 when it was truly a team operation and not a 1 man show as it has now become.there is the old saying about dancing with the one who brung you witch means in essence that you shouldn't forget those that got you where you are today.

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                    • Barbecueboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 18116

                      #25
                      People may faint when I say this, but you have to give Richards and baker a thumbs up for developing a chassis that put those drivers so far ahead of the curve back then.

                      I agree with everything else ( and more) that you say about them taking Josh under their wing etc.....

                      It all comes around though, and my personal disdain for mark himself does not take away from what Josh has been able to grow up and mature into.....

                      Break out the smelling salts.
                      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                      • mud duck
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 674

                        #26
                        Great post RaceReady!! Your spot on. I think once it was realized Josh wasn't going to make it in NASCAR as was hoped and his future was strictly DLMR. Things started to focus more on just the House car and him. It took a few years for guys to start catching on to what was happening. Again, tough to walk that fine line as builder and running against the very cars you compete against.

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                        • 25drtrkr
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 856

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mud duck View Post
                          Mark isn't going to hire anymore tech personnel as suggested. Josh's new found speed most likely wont be transferred or communicated to other Rocketeers!! This is about making Josh fast and winning some Crown Jewels!! Rocket doesn't have to worry about car sells on the regional or local level and that's where Mark makes the most of his money!! Heck, the Conley's alone pay all the utility bills and other expenses at the shop with all cars they buy. Mark is focused strictly on getting Josh some Crown Jewels to add to the trophy case! This is what guys like Lanigan and Chub are starting to realize. Does anyone think, Mark is going to reveal his secrets to guys sitting across the pits night in and night out?? It's a fine line to walk as car builder and owning one at the level of Josh. That's why guys are going else where. You can't beat Josh running the same thing as Josh!! And I'm pretty sure guys aren't getting all the information (to have the same as Josh)!! Only one out there might be BShepp who's very close to Mark. Can't blame the guy for wanting his son to win and do the very best!! And you can't blame guys for going elsewhere when they realize they might not be getting what they used to from Rocket.
                          I don't believe that based on my personal experience. My car owner and I spent 3 days with them last year. Josh answered every question asked from setup to shocks to chassis adj during a race. They allowed us to crawl under their car and look at whatever we wanted. Based on my experience, I find it hard to believe some are not getting the help they need, however If they are working on something new I can understand with the public not getting it right away.
                          Lions don't worry about the opinions of sheep.

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                          • Josh Bayko
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 8749

                            #28
                            You know, even if Chub got the info he wanted from Rocket, I still don't think he'd be winning. I mean, he's not winning in the Longhorn, either. He's not the driver he was even five years ago. He's sliding over the hill.
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                            • mud duck
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 674

                              #29
                              McCreadie starts 23rd and finishes 14th. TMac has not lost it that bad? Plus, other than the regulars and Moyer. There wasn't a lot of top 25 teams there and I'm putting it nicely. Maybe they r working on things and will help their other cars eventually. But, I hope it's soon with TMac!! Josh is running lights out and TMac is just running!! I'm just using both them on the WoO. But, it's not like BShepp and Carrier are doing much either. Although, they have some good tracks coming up for them.

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                              • racer67x
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 356

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                                People may faint when I say this, but you have to give Richards and baker a thumbs up for developing a chassis that put those drivers so far ahead of the curve back then.

                                I agree with everything else ( and more) that you say about them taking Josh under their wing etc.....
                                .
                                Steve Baker has pretty much sacrificed his own driving career by constantly being a test mule,I've seen stuff under his car that nobody has.
                                some nights hes fast,others not so much..lol
                                but he always seems to be having fun and in the end thats what its all about I guess.

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