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Wow! I believe yall but from my seats that's hard to believe. Lol. My bunch is top row, section H, under shed, between flag stand and turn 1. The cars disappeared most laps between 3 and 4. But that wind was at yalls backs so guess that helped your view. Turn 1 and 2 folks had to been covered up. ....watch the DoD video. You'll see what I mean.
LOL! She only likes a real man. You don't qualify. ...I'm done with you, on at least this thread. So I will allow you to have the last word.
if that was true, she wouldn't be with you, cause real "MEN" don't b!tch and complain all the time, but any way, I do thank you for allowing me the last word, good day.
We have sat in front of the suites in turn three for several years now (Sec NH) and the only time we get hit with any dust is if the wind is blowing hard that way (which is vary rarely). We can see a dirt "cloud" just go past us and into the end of the turn four bleachers and nail the frontstretch people often.
Did not get any dirt or dust on me at all both shows Saturday. Could see the entire track and could see the cars real well all the way around. The Dream was actually worse fore the dust above the track this year, but could still see.
I watched the video highlights and the cars coming off turn four are hard to see on camera, and I can tell you it was no where near that from where we were sitting.
Boring race on a big, boring one-groove track! No complaints here, its the World 100 and I'll continue to watch the ppv, each and every year.....just sayin!
ps.....I wish they would move it to a track like East Bay!
The dust is getting bad. This is my 25th world. And I'll come for 25 more. I love the place. It's like no other. But the dust is worse than ever. Noticed it last year. Thought it was just a one time thing. Pretty bad this year. Don't get me wrong. Racing is great.
Multiple grooves. It's great. But it's getting hard to see. Never was like this when Earl was in that water truck. Glad I'm under the shed. I can't imagine what the folks in turn 3 and 4 look like afterwards. ....hope I put this in a way I won't get slammed. Just being honest.
My group sets n 3&4 every year and almost never get dusted out. This year we sat in "ng" as many others on here did and I never 1 time even put my sunglasses on my face all night. All u have to do is look at the flags. Common logic says if the flag is blowing stiff and straight towards turn 1, guess where the dust is going..
Cut the track up 8 to 12 inches deep and water the hell out it and settle the dust issue.Car could get traction anywhere on the track and actually use their horsepower and talents, instead of winning by way of car setups.
I believe its an issue with track prep. The WRG guys, led by Allen Fink (I think), do an excellent job at Volusia every Speedweeks. They even come out and work the track after qualifying and heats. I was amazed to see Eldora use passenger cars and trucks to pack the track. With all that farm equipment around, surely they could find some to do a better job, and would definitely speed up the process!
I believe its an issue with track prep. The WRG guys, led by Allen Fink (I think), do an excellent job at Volusia every Speedweeks. They even come out and work the track after qualifying and heats. I was amazed to see Eldora use passenger cars and trucks to pack the track. With all that farm equipment around, surely they could find some to do a better job, and would definitely speed up the process!
You do realize farm equipment is designed to not compact the ground right?
They are huge heavy machines, but they are designed with limited compaction in mind (so when they drive in the field that may be wet, they don't sink (one of the reasons why a tractor can go into a mud bog and pull out a stuck 4x4 truck without any issue (learned that one the hard way when I was younger).
Trucks and passenger cars actually compact the dirt more than a tractor ever would.
Yes I most definitely realize that, as I worked in the ag business for 14 years. The difference being the weight is spread more evenly with with the wide floatation ag tires. Im not an expert on track prep but the Wrg guys do an excellent job with the Terragators and roll packers they use at Volusia. Since they only do the track prep during Speedweeks, the local track prep comes nowhere close, as the equipment is brought in just for Speedweeks.
Yes I most definitely realize that, as I worked in the ag business for 14 years. The difference being the weight is spread more evenly with with the wide floatation ag tires. Im not an expert on track prep but the Wrg guys do an excellent job with the Terragators and roll packers they use at Volusia. Since they only do the track prep during Speedweeks, the local track prep comes nowhere close, as the equipment is brought in just for Speedweeks.
my guess would be that they can't keep them on the banking (most tractors and terragators seem like they might be a little top heavy to be running in the high side at Eldora to me).
I remember in the 1980's they used them during the Knoxville Nationals a few times when we had a monsoon all week. Actually made the track rough for the racing and the pack trucks could make 4 laps in the same amount of time the terragator could make 1 lap (even in the slop) and actually did more harm than good when all was said and done (they got the top layer of dirt nice and smooth, but the cars would tear that up right away and it would get rutty and rough).
I'd think that Roger and his staff have looked at everything and they do what works best for their track (everyone's dirt is different), having been to Volusia, I'm not sure I'd call it dirt, it seemed like it was mostly sand to me.
my guess would be that they can't keep them on the banking (most tractors and terragators seem like they might be a little top heavy to be running in the high side at Eldora to me).
I remember in the 1980's they used them during the Knoxville Nationals a few times when we had a monsoon all week. Actually made the track rough for the racing and the pack trucks could make 4 laps in the same amount of time the terragator could make 1 lap (even in the slop) and actually did more harm than good when all was said and done (they got the top layer of dirt nice and smooth, but the cars would tear that up right away and it would get rutty and rough).
I'd think that Roger and his staff have looked at everything and they do what works best for their track (everyone's dirt is different), having been to Volusia, I'm not sure I'd call it dirt, it seemed like it was mostly sand to me.
Whens the last time you went to Volusia. They have had a brown gumbo for the last several years. I haven't been to Eldora but I bet the banking isn't that much different. The supers qualify in the 15's during Speedweek.
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