One shock per wheel rule coming .

[Barbecueboy]

Yeah let's go backwards 20 years...that sounds like a great idea.
Let's take it a step further and use truck arm suspension, non-adjustable shocks, and steel wheels. Then the cars will be cheap...worked for NASCAR didn't it?

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[slide-skill]

M49 , you don't understand . When they went to the shock behind setup that's when dirt racing changed to more shock tech needed which means more $$$$$$

[Clayton_Wetter]

Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy Nunn View Post
Phuck it... make 'em run without shocks!!!! See who wins then...

Thank you for the good laugh sir!!! HAHAHAHAHA

[Matt49]

M49 , you don't understand . When they went to the shock behind setup that's when dirt racing changed to more shock tech needed which means more $$$$$$

So it sounds like you're implying that the LR spring behind setup created demand for better shock technology. Would you like to explain that?
Assuming that you can, then also explain to me how a $5000 set of shocks is somehow breaking the budget of teams that can afford a couple of $40,000 motors and spend $10,000-$20,000 per year keeping them freshened.

[TheJet-09]

Probably has nothing to do with cost because in the end what do sanctioning bodies care about our budgets? It probably has to do with the two or three races a year that actually have some sort of tech inspection and the tech guys having no idea what they are looking at.

[25drtrkr]

So it sounds like you're implying that the LR spring behind setup created demand for better shock technology. Would you like to explain that?
Assuming that you can, then also explain to me how a $5000 set of shocks is somehow breaking the budget of teams that can afford a couple of $40,000 motors and spend $10,000-$20,000 per year keeping them freshened.

Plus, the lr behind has made the racing far better! Very,very,very rarely could 2 cars run side by side in the past.

[Barbecueboy]

Probably has nothing to do with cost because in the end what do sanctioning bodies care about our budgets? It probably has to do with the two or three races a year that actually have some sort of tech inspection and the tech guys having no idea what they are looking at.

Bingo.............

[let-r-eat]

The advent of slick tracks.

[Matt49]

The advent of slick tracks.

Slick tracks have existed since dirt track racing BUT there is a lot of truth to the statement that shocks become more important in slick conditions. As a driver, I like slick conditions because it brings out the driver (which I don't have) and the setup (which I sometimes get) a lot more. Fast tracks may be exciting but the biggest motors are usually up front, not the best drivers or setups. And there isn't usually as much passing...but let's not get too far off topic...

The reason this is even being discussed is because of the "Rumley device" that has everybody so mystified. Few people seem to know what it is or what it does but it is obvious that it is utilizing an additional shock so people think we just need to make that a rule. It's stupid. It's just like some tracks that run crates have a "no canister shock rule". Dumb, dumb, dumb. Get a set of Integra IDAs or Genesis and you have something just as good as a canister shock but you spent more money if you already had a set of Ohlins, Penske, ARS, ets. It's just a prime example of the people making the rules having no idea what they are doing. Creating a rule under the guise of SAVING racers money almost always COSTS racers money. But I digress...

[zeroracing]

Matt is dead on on this, I guess I don't get it. So one car developed a piece that is not crazy expensive just took a brain to figure out. Nothing on it looks expensive, the trick is in the valving inside everything.

If one guy was smart enough to figure out something that put their car in a completely different league do you think banning one of his ideas will change that? The difference was he had a small budget and tried an idea, now he has close to half a million in extra cash to try more ideas, good luck beating him to the next thing.

To the comment about the LR behind causing the cost to go up. Take b mods for example, run for $150 a night. The first years around us a guy with a used bent car and smoking motor could win, now guys are using toter homes and building multiple new cars. In recent years big money has influenced the entire sport, no matter the rules. Please stop helping us with more rules they rarely save money on the long run.

[fastford]

Matt is dead on on this, I guess I don't get it. So one car developed a piece that is not crazy expensive just took a brain to figure out. Nothing on it looks expensive, the trick is in the valving inside everything.

If one guy was smart enough to figure out something that put their car in a completely different league do you think banning one of his ideas will change that? The difference was he had a small budget and tried an idea, now he has close to half a million in extra cash to try more ideas, good luck beating him to the next thing.

To the comment about the LR behind causing the cost to go up. Take b mods for example, run for $150 a night. The first years around us a guy with a used bent car and smoking motor could win, now guys are using toter homes and building multiple new cars. In recent years big money has influenced the entire sport, no matter the rules. Please stop helping us with more rules they rarely save money on the long run.

dang zero, I was on my way out to shop to work on my junk and didn't plan on looking on here, but im glad I did, excellent post buddy. and matt is dead on

[Barbecueboy]

No kidding........two of the best posts written so far on the subject.

Especially the part about the rule makers not really keeping up......they are now more reactionary than ever.

[25drtrkr]

No kidding........two of the best posts written so far on the subject.

Especially the part about the rule makers not really keeping up......they are now more reactionary than ever.

Yep, they took away Bloomers special shocks and now they're taking away Rumleys shocks too!

I hear the faint word....NASCAR.....creeping into the dlm world!.......God help us!

[Matt49]

Yep, they took away Bloomers special shocks and now they're taking away Rumleys shocks too!

I hear the faint word....NASCAR.....creeping into the dlm world!.......God help us!

It used to be, somebody innovated and everybody else played catch-up. If it turns into, somebody innovates and you make more rules, NASCAR is exactly what we'll have.

[25drtrkr]

It used to be, somebody innovated and everybody else played catch-up. If it turns into, somebody innovates and you make more rules, NASCAR is exactly what we'll have.

.....and we wonder why great innovators like Smokey and Junior.....QUIT!