boggs incident at county line, what should have been done??

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  • Barbecueboy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 18116

    #16
    Originally posted by lazermod3 View Post
    You can comment all you want,but here is what should have been done.

    #1 Caution flag should have been thrown

    #2 99 car D-QUED

    #3 Bottom line is this,Track favoritism no doubt about it.
    I'll give you 1 and 2 maybe, but 3 isn't even close.......clearly you haven't had much dealings with the ultimate guys, they don't play like that.

    Everybody involved at the track acted like professionals about it....( was just a missed split second call)......probably too much to ask that everybody on 4 m do the same.

    I'm pretty sure everybody knows how I feel about the 101 team, it was fantastic watching them battle with the 4 b.........even in victory lane the 101 acknowledged that the outcome should have and could have been a little bit different had Jackie not gotten boogered up by the hardy re enter.

    Would have been a perfect chance for the 4b to verbally burn down the place and rant and unprofessionally rave about how he was done dirty by the track and the ultimate guys.

    And that never happened..............
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    • 71PRPFan
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 943

      #17
      I hope this opens a lot of people's eyes around the country about all the bad rumors you hear about him. Seriously the nicest guy you will ever meet in the pits and on the track.
      04192016

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      • Barbecueboy
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 18116

        #18
        Originally posted by 71PRPFan View Post
        I hope this opens a lot of people's eyes around the country about all the bad rumors you hear about him. Seriously the nicest guy you will ever meet in the pits and on the track.
        I'm 100% convinced of that..............of course, people say the exact same thing about me too, lol.

        Kidding aside, what he didn't say or do after the incident on the track says as much about him/them as what he did say or do all weekend.

        And not sure if I mentioned it or not, but dam guy is a freaking wheelman..........county line isn't the easiest place to get around your first time there.
        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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        • tsand
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 528

          #19
          Been going to dirt racing for 45 years seen the leader lose the race because of a stupid move by a lap car more times then I can count. Never seen a caution thrown. I'm sure boggs won a few races by lap cars getting in the way of the leader I'm sure he wasn't screaming for a caution then. If Casey was leading and a caution was thrown I'm sure people would be screaming favoritism. $hit happens on a race track some time it cost you sometime it benefits you. Look at Knoxville with Owens getting in the way of the leaders and changed the out come of the race.

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          • jog49
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 2551

            #20
            The race director (Kelley Carlton) said above that he didn't see that particular moment in the race so I don't think anyone really wants the race dictated by hearsay, do you? A young driver, unfamiliar with the track, made a mistake and as tsand said, it's happened countless times. Boggs was unfortunate but it is what it is. The only thing that does sting is the comment that the track showed "favoritism". Who was this dunce?

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            • jlacey
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 1066

              #21
              Again I havent seen any video, glad to see Casey get the win. Especially after running top 5 at Charlotte and breaking in the last 10 laps, not to mention a few wins/top 5s he got screwed on earlier in the year. At the same time I hate to see that happen to Boggs. Id be irate if I was in his shoes so I give him all the credit in the world for keeping his cool the way he did

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              • 7uptruckracer
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 1336

                #22
                Last time we ran an Ultimate race the Ultimate series had their own officials and they did their own policing and officiating not the track anyways.

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                • 71PRPFan
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 943

                  #23
                  Is there a video outside of DoD? I let my sub run out

                  Just glad to see our local guy travel and have a good showing far from home with some stout competition
                  04192016

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                  • Barbecueboy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 18116

                    #24
                    They would have made you proud........they done real good.

                    I'm going to be heading up your way to watch them a little more next year.
                    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                    • Kwd1253
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2262

                      #25
                      ok hardy re-enter on track. some are saying hardy got in Boggs way on purpose. why would blame someone said they flagged him on the track. he got DQ, he would of said I did it so what if it was on purpose. so that don't add up. sounds like they guy flagged him on to the track didn't want take his fault and a mouth full from every one. 2nd I read from post on here about them being at driver meeting. saying no re-entry but directory of meeting said there was no rule on re-entering on the track if they wasn't DQ. so looks like y'all fell asleep at the meeting. so why was hardy DQ then? sounds like a bunch people f'ing a football at this race. so Boggs got screwed out first place maybe, any thing could happen on the last lap tho. hardy got DQ for what? also for ones asking why hardy came back on track, this no brainer. his first time there he wanted more laps to figure the track out.
                      Last edited by Kwd1253; 11-16-2015, 02:09 PM.

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                      • Aluminium Block
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 151

                        #26
                        Any accusations of favoritism are probably ridiculous. Do you think a series like Ultlimate that gets mediocre car counts really wants to chase off any winning drivers like Boggs to appease a series driver? Half their shows this year didn't even have full fields! Looking at their points, it looks like only 3 drivers followed the whole series. If they catered to just those 3 drivers they would be out of business in a flash!

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                        • SuperEight
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 318

                          #27
                          Not right, but not conclusive.

                          Originally posted by pink floyd View Post
                          hoping bbqboy might chime in on this one since he was there. when the 99 car came onto the track out of nowhere and pushed boggs to the infield while he was leading, shouldn't the flagman have immediately thrown the caution flag?? the more I watch that video, the more aggravated I become that the track and or series officials just let it go giving Roberts the lead and ultimately the victory. any opinions on this??
                          I like Casey, but what they did to Boggs was wrong. Now having said that I'm not sure he was gonna hang on for the win. Boggs made no contact with the #99 so he had no damage to hinder him and he was 1/2 straight behind at the end. Casey may have won anyway, but Boggs was done wrong absolutely by either the track or the series or both. JMO
                          Left 4M and Dirt Late Model racing, 04/12/2016 @12:06AM.

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                          • Barbecueboy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 18116

                            #28
                            Missing a call or making a mistake is a far cry from being purposely done wrong,..........and the favoritism cries, pfffffffffft............
                            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                            • GEAR_HEAD
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3107

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Aluminium Block View Post
                              Any accusations of favoritism are probably ridiculous. Do you think a series like Ultlimate that gets mediocre car counts really wants to chase off any winning drivers like Boggs to appease a series driver? Half their shows this year didn't even have full fields! Looking at their points, it looks like only 3 drivers followed the whole series. If they catered to just those 3 drivers they would be out of business in a flash!
                              How else can you explain how NOT ONE series or track official with a radio saw Hardy re-enter the track and instantly call for a caution? How did the flagman not see it and wave the yellow immediately? The only way to explain it is favortism.

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                              • Boggsfan
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 107

                                #30
                                Boggs says that no matter what southern series he runs with it is going to cost him $5,000. That is whether it be the Ray Cook Or the Ultimate Late Model Series. When talking with a man that worked with the series he said they only had control of the inside of the track and no control of any calls being made.

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