boggs incident at county line, what should have been done??

[tsand]

If you read Kelly reply he states the 99 was dq because he inored the man running the back gate and entered the track against the direction of the official.

[Kwd1253]

How else can you explain how NOT ONE series or track official with a radio saw Hardy re-enter the track and instantly call for a caution? How did the flagman not see it and wave the yellow immediately? The only way to explain it is favortism.

well for flag it's not hard miss a split sec thing like that. he watching the whole field special where guys racing hard in packs. he relies on track officials not guys on the track at the wrong time. but bring up good point on the radio thing tho, but at same time it's no different than a lap car on the track already getting in Boggs way, if you really want look st it. it bad racing deal that happen to Boggs. if it would happen to Casey while he was in 2nd place and hardy slow him down. the flag man would not throw the yellow nor you hear people say throw the yellow. it's a messed up racing deal, meeting should said zero re-enter from pit. it's just really bad racing deal, but can be avoided next time at that track. no re-entry from pit if you pull in only re-entry from hot pit.

[Barbecueboy]

[QUOTE=GEAR_HEAD;1967722]How else can you explain how NOT ONE series or track official with a radio saw Hardy re-enter the track and instantly call for a caution? How did the flagman not see it and wave the yellow immediately? The only way to explain it is favortism.[/QUOTE

There is definitely more than one way to explain it, but apparently only one way to understand it?????

And just curious?? You ever been to county line and seen , pitted or raced on the layout?

[SnakeX3]

I was sitting in the turn 4 grandstand and saw the whole thing unfold. I was shocked to see Hardy appear on the track, but it wasn't like he was tearing butt out onto it. It looked to me that he was trying to get to the hot pit, which is why he might have been driving down toward the bottom of the track rather than staying high. Boggs had no chance. Kudos to him for not T-boning Hardy.

The entire incident happened in what seemed like a split second. If I hadn't been watching Boggs and had the entrance to the track off 4 in my line of site, I'd have missed it. If I am a fan with nothing to do other than watch the race and I was caught off guard, then I can see how the flag man and race officials could have missed it if their eyes were elsewhere.

The caution that came out 2 laps later...well I don't recall seeing anything that would have brought one out. I was under the impressive (perhaps wrongly) that it was thrown to sort the mess out and later thought it was only to get Hardy off the track. When Boggs didn't get his position back (and he was gesturing) for the restart, I was like...WTF?

There were a lot more early cautions than the DoD video shows. There was a lot of beatin' and bangin', especially early on. I could easily see that after four cautions in 8 laps or whatever it was, that race officials were watching and waiting on the next one and would have had their eyes where the cars were bunched up...and that ain't where Jackie or Hardy were.

Did Jackie get screwed? Yup. Woulda, coulda, shoulda...but he did have like 40 laps to catch Casey again. Not sayin' Casey coulda caught him if Boggs had the clean air, but stuff happens in every race. And as far as bias goes, they were giving Jackie his props by mentioning him plenty before and during the mod race and the Super race. I find that to be a total joke.

I am a Casey fan. Rambo's the man. After that race I'm a Jackie Boggs fan too. Those guys know how to put on a show and despite all the BS, post race and in person from what I saw they were all cool with each other. I liked that. They put on a show for the fans...especially Jackie. I'll be back to see those boys, the Ultimate series and the racing at County Line every chance I get.

[W2Racing09]

To say there is any favoritism being displayed is incorrect. The ULTIMATE series is one of the most professionally run organizations in all of racing. It certainly was unfortunate for Boggs but I don't think there is any type of precedent to throw a yellow in that situation, and even if there were It sounds like nobody saw it. You can't always keep a close eye on 24 cars as the race director, once in awhile stuff will slip through the cracks.

[SnakeX3]

To say there is any favoritism being displayed is incorrect. The ULTIMATE series is one of the most professionally run organizations in all of racing. It certainly was unfortunate for Boggs but I don't think there is any type of precedent to throw a yellow in that situation, and even if there were It sounds like nobody saw it. You can't always keep a close eye on 24 cars as the race director, once in awhile stuff will slip through the cracks.

That was my point. If anything they were playing up that Boggs was there and he was doing double duty. It seemed silly to me that anyone would suggest any bias.

[W2Racing09]

That was my point. If anything they were playing up that Boggs was there and he was doing double duty. It seemed silly to me that anyone would suggest any bias.

My apologes I didn't mean to quote you when I responded.

Thanks,
Jeff

[dirtMAN007]

to say there is any favoritism being displayed is incorrect. The ultimate series is one of the most professionally run organizations in all of racing. It certainly was unfortunate for boggs but i don't think there is any type of precedent to throw a yellow in that situation, and even if there were it sounds like nobody saw it. You can't always keep a close eye on 24 cars as the race director, once in awhile stuff will slip through the cracks.

but then again you thought ben shelton was spot on with his article calling fans the "joke" !! I believe we as people who weren't in attendance should listen and learn from those who were !

[Ben Shelton]

Oh dirtMan007.... thanks for reminding me that for some folks reading comprehension can be a difficult concept to grasp.

- Ben

[dirtMAN007]

Oh dirtMan007.... thanks for reminding me that for some folks reading comprehension can be a difficult concept to grasp.

- Ben

Oh Ben thanks for reminding us that we are not all amused by your smoke and mirror tactics and can think and reason for ourselves !!!!

[swartzman]

The reason everyone acted like that with the 4b crew is because Jackie expects everyone with the car to act like professional's, so many people have the wrong idea of what Jackie is like until something like this happens and he reacts totally different than you expect.

[W2Racing09]

Oh Ben thanks for reminding us that we are not all amused by your smoke and mirror tactics and can think and reason for ourselves !!!!

You are the last person on this message board who should mention anything about thinking and reasoning.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[dirtMAN007]

Why? Because you reposted a story which you believed was correct only to find that most reasonable people on 4m completely disagree with ? So now you are butt hurt over the whole incident!!!!!

[Barbecueboy]

The reason everyone acted like that with the 4b crew is because Jackie expects everyone with the car to act like professional's, so many people have the wrong idea of what Jackie is like until something like this happens and he reacts totally different than you expect.

And some of them are just some real nice sumbitches in general..........being cool is hard to hide.

[TTS_JF]

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