I wonder if they will find him guilty?

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  • Nasty55
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 2611

    #1

    I wonder if they will find him guilty?

    Jury deliberates in criminal trial of WV coal mine explosion that killed 29 men.

    CHARLESTON, W.Va. -
    The jury has been sent to deliberate in the trial of ex-Massey Energy CEO Don Blankenship on charges of violating mine safety laws.

    Jurors were sent out of the federal courtroom late Tuesday afternoon in Charleston, West Virginia.

    During a final closing rebuttal argument, prosecutors asked jurors to picture themselves working in Upper Big Branch Mine, plagued by safety deficiencies and insufficient staff.

    Blankenship is accused of putting profits ahead of safety in the years before an explosion killed 29 men at the mine in southern West Virginia in 2010.

    The defense says prosecutors presented no evidence that Blankenship was involved in a criminal conspiracy.
    If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!
  • swartzman
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 718

    #2
    When the defense does not present one person to testify in their behalf, it pretty much tells me the prosecution did not do to much to show Don B. as being guilty. Guess we'll all know how the jurors see it in the near future..

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    • Nasty55
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 2611

      #3
      Originally posted by swartzman View Post
      When the defense does not present one person to testify in their behalf, it pretty much tells me the prosecution did not do to much to show Don B. as being guilty. Guess we'll all know how the jurors see it in the near future..


      I was pretty much thinking the same thing swartzman.... the prosecution supposedly had all of this evidence and then all of a sudden they have nothing.... i say he walks a free man.... the sad part of this whole deal is we lost one of the up and coming late model drivers in John Blankenship because of his dads stupidity....
      If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!

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      • kidrock
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 16409

        #4
        The really sad part is that 29 people lost their lives no matter the circumstances.

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        • oldfart50
          Banned
          • Aug 2015
          • 252

          #5
          Originally posted by kidrock View Post
          The really sad part is that 29 people lost their lives no matter the circumstances.
          100% correct

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          • Nasty55
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 2611

            #6
            Originally posted by kidrock View Post
            The really sad part is that 29 people lost their lives no matter the circumstances.
            I agree 100% kid I didn't mean any disrespect to the deceased at all...
            If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!

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            • kidrock
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 16409

              #7
              Originally posted by Nasty55 View Post
              I agree 100% kid I didn't mean any disrespect to the deceased at all...
              None taken and knew you didn't. Sorry if you thought I thought because I didn't. I have seen enough of your post to know that.

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              • 00Hdmn
                Senior Member
                • May 2008
                • 1859

                #8
                First of all, my prayers go out to all the families that lost loved ones in this horrible accident. My question is with all of the federal inspectors these days and regulations by our wonderful government, why are they not responsible for this tragity? Couldn't they have just shut the mine down until all problems were fixed? Just doesn't make sense to me.

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                • useddirt
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 137

                  #9
                  YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 100% RIGHT OOHdmn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • mudmaker
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 101

                    #10
                    Usually MSHA will shut down a mine if the violations are severe enough. We can only speculate something under the table going on here.
                    I know Massey Energy had hundreds of violations in limbo, appealing through an administrative judge. By doing that the company doesn't have to pay the fine and with the back log in front of those administrative judges, an outcome was so far down the road the hope is they are forgotten. With each violation that stands, it thereby increases the amount of all future fines so appealing them in the beginning is a top priority for the company.
                    Tragedy for the loss of life for it apparently doesn't weigh as heavy as loss of profit paying fines.

                    A chart showing numbers of fines for Massey Energy for 10 years.

                    Last edited by mudmaker; 11-18-2015, 07:37 AM.

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                    • 00Hdmn
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 1859

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mudmaker View Post
                      Usually MSHA will shut down a mine if the violations are severe enough. We can only speculate something under the table going on here.
                      I know Massey Energy had hundreds of violations in limbo, appealing through an administrative judge. By doing that the company doesn't have to pay the fine and with the back log in front of those administrative judges, an outcome was so far down the road the hope is they are forgotten. With each violation that stands, it thereby increases the amount of all future fines so appealing them in the beginning is a top priority for the company.
                      Tragedy for the loss of life for it apparently doesn't weigh as heavy as loss of profit paying fines.

                      A chart showing numbers of fines for Massey Energy for 10 years.

                      http://www.msha.gov/PerformanceCoal/...%20Summary.pdf
                      Thanks for the info, that just clarifies that the government is at complete fault that they didn't shut them down, if there was something going on under the table it is still the governments fault for letting that happen.

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                      • Bubstr
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3734

                        #12
                        In a ideal world, the survivors of those 29 men would file suit against both, the coal co. and the government, but in the real world, as soon as they add government to the defendant list, the law suit becomes un-winnable. Who has control of the courts?

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                        • gorj
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1309

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                          In a ideal world, the survivors of those 29 men would file suit against both, the coal co. and the government, but in the real world, as soon as they add government to the defendant list, the law suit becomes un-winnable. Who has control of the courts?
                          When government officials are involved, especially when benefitting and vacationing with the defendant, they become blind and deaf on curtain matters. It's ashame because lives were lost and families hurt.

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                          • hucktyson
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 1903

                            #14
                            When men working in an extremely dangerous occupation are killed in a terrible accident laying that on the CEO who most likely never stepped foot in that mine and most likely never talked to the shift supervisor is a huge strech

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                            • tsand
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 528

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
                              When men working in an extremely dangerous occupation are killed in a terrible accident laying that on the CEO who most likely never stepped foot in that mine and most likely never talked to the shift supervisor is a huge strech
                              The last time a judge a ruled against blankinship the next election Don spent a couple million running his on candidate against the judge and Don candidate won. Everybody that worked under Don was convicted or pleaded guilty. A they all said they were working on Don directions.

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