I wonder if they will find him guilty?

[let-r-eat]

If IMSHA would have shut the mine down, everyone would have been stirred to think the government is shutting down OUR COAL MINES and it's that MEAN NASTY GOVERNMENT killing our jobs!

I don't have enough information to know if he is guilty or not guilty or to even form an opinion but what I do know is that people need to quit pitting people against government. It's a scary tactic and if you don't want government in your lives then move to Darfur or Africa somewhere. Government has it's flaws but it isn't an enemy like so many are trying to reflect it to be!

[bleedblue55]

When men working in an extremely dangerous occupation are killed in a terrible accident laying that on the CEO who most likely never stepped foot in that mine and most likely never talked to the shift supervisor is a huge strech

Actually the whole case against him was based on how he micromanaged his coal mines to maximize production. Most of the testimony centered around how hands on he was with all levels of employees at the mine. A few of the shift supervisor types at Upper Big Branch cut deals with the Feds to minimize their own prosecution. Believe that's why the Feds thought they could tie him directly to the incidents that led up to the explosion. With that said I followed a lot of the proceedings and I'm not sure the "Gotcha Moment" ever happened but I could be wrong on that. I predicted huge fines and a little time at Club Fed pretrial. Whatever the outcome I'm sure the appeals will drag on for awhile given Don's war chest of funds..

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I'd be very surprised if he gets anything. He's the perfect example of only caring about the almighty dollar, and none about those who make it for you. Between buying politicians, judges, and I'd venture to say MSHA investigators, he's a rich pos who is pretty much above the law. The more you hear about him, the more you wanna vomit.

[jog49]

One of you has insinuated that the government is crooked. Say it ain't so, Joe!
LOL!

[TackyTracker]

this happened in 2010 and just now there is a deliberation???

[Clayton_Wetter]

Nobody should be calling this man a murderer unless they have knowledge of evidence to back it up. It is best not take an opinion on something out of hearsay.

[bleedblue55]

Nobody should be calling this man a murderer unless they have knowledge of evidence to back it up. It is best not take an opinion on something out of hearsay.

Someone on 4m saying "best not take an opinion on something out of hearsay". There should be some sort of award for a post like that.

[153J]

Someone on 4m saying "best not take an opinion on something out of hearsay". There should be some sort of award for a post like that.

there used to be...

them little green dots.....

[bleedblue55]

there used to be...

them little green dots.....

I'm thinking a red one, just because............

[NormP]

Because Clayton says we shouldn't jump to conclusions without documented facts to back it up?

[bleedblue55]

Because Clayton says we shouldn't jump to conclusions without documented facts to back it up?

No, because he made the reference about accusing Don of murder, which no one in this post did.

[hucktyson]

The shift supervisors are who is responsible for production. If they decide to forgo saftey to beat their quota that is on them. They have direct control of what's going on in the mine , if they felt lives were being risked they should have shut it down. I would be willing to bet there wouldn't be near as much hate for Don if he didn't have more money than the vast majority of this board COMBINED .... He was a ruthless executive who got $hit done !! If he didn't he would have been replaced. As CEO your job is to make money for your shareholders and your compensation is based on how well you accomplish that task. No differnt that a sub contractor working on flat rate jobs

[tsand]

The shift supervisors are who is responsible for production. If they decide to forgo saftey to beat their quota that is on them. They have direct control of what's going on in the mine , if they felt lives were being risked they should have shut it down. I would be willing to bet there wouldn't be near as much hate for Don if he didn't have more money than the vast majority of this board COMBINED .... He was a ruthless executive who got $hit done !! If he didn't he would have been replaced. As CEO your job is to make money for your shareholders and your compensation is based on how well you accomplish that task. No differnt that a sub contractor working on flat rate jobs

you need to to read the NY times article on Don it's about how he micro manged all the mines and demanded 30 min updates on all production at every mine. That was the heart of the government case that nothing even down to the smallest detail wasn't done with his knowledge. In the article there a story told by a maid about what happened to her when she brought Don the wrong biscuit for breakfast that tells you all you need to know about the man. The name of the article is "The people vs the coal byron" Google it.

[racer67x]

you need to to read the NY times article on Don it's about how he micro manged all the mines and demanded 30 min updates on all production at every mine. That was the heart of the government case that nothing even down to the smallest detail wasn't done with his knowledge. In the article there a story told by a maid about what happened to her when she brought Don the wrong biscuit for breakfast that tells you all you need to know about the man. The name of the article is "The people vs the coal byron" Google it.

and you don't think a liberal rag like the NYT has a bias against coal?
you going to start quoting stuff from Mother Jones next..?..hope he beats it.

[davis2902]

Saw on Twitter that it looks like we have a hung jury.