Brandon shepherd has a new ride?

[W2Racing09]

You mean the level of competition is crazy high in Lucas and WoO is dying, right?

I got that a little backward but I certainly disagree that WoO is dying. The gauge of whether or not a tour is worth it to a track (which is how a series lives or dies) is the amount of fans drawn to the event. The WoO is packing the track at every event I've been to of theirs so I would say they are far from dying. The competition level certainly is not on the level of Lucas at this point, but dying is quite an incorrect conclusion to draw. Any type of DLM fan should hope and pray the WoO survives because cutting down to one national series will cut the amount of national touring cars in half. It would be extremely bad for DLM racing were either of the national tours to go under.

[W2Racing09]

Plus you and Ben Shelton make a great pair, right Jeff !!'! Lol!lol!

Yet another time that you have proven that your reading comprehension (and general intelligence) is on par with the average preschooler. I'm pretty sure Ben announced quite some time back that he would not be working for the WoO series next season. So despite the fact that your comment was both ignorant and pointless to begin with, it is made even less relevant (believe it or not) because it is also incorrect.

[racer67x]

I got that a little backward but I certainly disagree that WoO is dying. The gauge of whether or not a tour is worth it to a track (which is how a series lives or dies) is the amount of fans drawn to the event. The WoO is packing the track at every event I've been to of theirs so I would say they are far from dying. The competition level certainly is not on the level of Lucas at this point, but dying is quite an incorrect conclusion to draw. Any type of DLM fan should hope and pray the WoO survives because cutting down to one national series will cut the amount of national touring cars in half. It would be extremely bad for DLM racing were either of the national tours to go under.

wonder how strong WRG is these days..they just sold off Lernerville.

[Crossbones]

People have been saying for years on here that WoO is dying, but I would guess that WoO will be around longer than the Lucas series because the Lucas series is owned by a big company that is using a series to promote its products and could change marketing strategy at any time. I think Forrest Lucas likes the sport but hes in his 70s? Can't live for ever and when hes gone who ever takes the company over probably will drop the sport like a hot rock while the WoO series' organization is built around the sport.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I got that a little backward but I certainly disagree that WoO is dying. The gauge of whether or not a tour is worth it to a track (which is how a series lives or dies) is the amount of fans drawn to the event. The WoO is packing the track at every event I've been to of theirs so I would say they are far from dying. The competition level certainly is not on the level of Lucas at this point, but dying is quite an incorrect conclusion to draw. Any type of DLM fan should hope and pray the WoO survives because cutting down to one national series will cut the amount of national touring cars in half. It would be extremely bad for DLM racing were either of the national tours to go under.

The national tours go under, the drivers return to their regional homes, big money drops out, price acceleration slows down. Sounds awful!

[W2Racing09]

The national tours go under, the drivers return to their regional homes, big money drops out, price acceleration slows down. Sounds awful!

Right I'm sure thats how it would work. The promoters would certainly just keep shelling out $50k to win purses to get the same regional cars week in and week out too. I'm sure the sport would grow through all of the promotion the local tracks do as well. I think many fans would agree that it is best to see the best drivers from all regions touring all over the country. Drivers like Owens, Bloomquist, Richards, Lanigan, etc. might not even be in the sport were it not for the National series and the opportunity to possibly make a living at racing.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[dirtMAN007]

right i'm sure thats how it would work. The promoters would certainly just keep shelling out $50k to win purses to get the same regional cars week in and week out too. I'm sure the sport would grow through all of the promotion the local tracks do as well. I think many fans would agree that it is best to see the best drivers from all regions touring all over the country. Drivers like owens, bloomquist, richards, lanigan, etc. Might not even be in the sport were it not for the national series and the opportunity to possibly make a living at racing.

Thanks,
jeff.

i'm quite sure you didn't comprehend what masterbilt said !!!!!!! So read it again slowly and then make a more informed rebuttle ! Or consult ben for help !!!!!!!!!!!

[Josh Bayko]

The national tours go under, the drivers return to their regional homes, big money drops out, price acceleration slows down. Sounds awful!

I don't necessarily think it would have that effect on the sport. For instance, let's say the tours go under. Not all of them are just going to quit racing and sell everything off. At least half of them are still going to be racing in their high dollar equipment.

I'll use an example that would apply in my area. Josh Richards. If the national touring aspect died, he's not going to just stop racing. He'd go to a weekly/regional schedule He'd pop in at Lernerville or Elikins on Fridays, PPMS or Tyler on Saturdays and do other random regional shows the rest of the time, and it's not like he'd downgrade all his equipment.

OH/PA/WV locals/regionals would have to spend huge amounts of money just to keep up.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Right I'm sure thats how it would work. The promoters would certainly just keep shelling out $50k to win purses to get the same regional cars week in and week out too. I'm sure the sport would grow through all of the promotion the local tracks do as well. I think many fans would agree that it is best to see the best drivers from all regions touring all over the country. Drivers like Owens, Bloomquist, Richards, Lanigan, etc. might not even be in the sport were it not for the National series and the opportunity to possibly make a living at racing.

Thanks,
Jeff.

There was nothing wrong with the product in 1985. People from racing families would still be racing. That isn't going to change. And if there are 25 cars at my local show every Saturday and there is no WoO or Lucas, I don't see the problem. It is a hobby sport.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I don't necessarily think it would have that effect on the sport. For instance, let's say the tours go under. Not all of them are just going to quit racing and sell everything off. At least half of them are still going to be racing in their high dollar equipment.

I'll use an example that would apply in my area. Josh Richards. If the national touring aspect died, he's not going to just stop racing. He'd go to a weekly/regional schedule He'd pop in at Lernerville or Elikins on Fridays, PPMS or Tyler on Saturdays and do other random regional shows the rest of the time, and it's not like he'd downgrade all his equipment.

OH/PA/WV locals/regionals would have to spend huge amounts of money just to keep up.

That is exactly what I would expect to happen. It would slow down the current rate of inflation in DLM racing. Not suddenly reduce costs.

[hucktyson]

I don't think the big money car owners would stick around to run local shows. This sport is a pissing contest where rich guys try to show who has the most money ...

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I don't think the big money car owners would stick around to run local shows. This sport is a pissing contest where rich guys try to show who has the most money ...

In that case, the result would be better than I expect.

[bb14]

In that case, the result would be better than I expect.

I totally agree. Regional series killed super racing in the Carolinas. What will happen in Ky next year? Many will travel withe BoB and leave the local tracks without supers. Crates as headliner class does not cut it for fans. I drive 4-6 hours to watch supers and pass up many local tracks. Sorry but crates do not cut with me and most of my buddies.

National tours are not the problem. Regional tours are the problem. If we had neither the local racing could improve.

[Josh Bayko]

That is exactly what I would expect to happen. It would slow down the current rate of inflation in DLM racing. Not suddenly reduce costs.

I don't think it would slow the inflation rate down much, if at all.

I'll use modified racing in New York as an example. About 10 years ago , many of the weekly tracks that were paying 2k+ to win a weekly feature actually cut the purses down to 1500 to win and the costs have continued on their upward arc at the same it rate it was when the big purses ruled the day.

It's racing. the money is always going to have the advantage, and everybody else will spend their last dollar to keep up.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I feel your pain. I am lucky to live in an area where people are still struggling along. Much of the southeast is without supers. I have been wondering what KY will look like next year.