Lucas Oil and WoO Rosters

[Josh Bayko]

Carrier is not intending on running the full lucas tour. I can't see outlaws not mandating same rules as lucas and I can't see JD not returning to lucas to at least try to prove they can out smart those guys again.

There is roughly a month until races start again. If the WoO was going to change their rules to match Lucas', they would have done it already.

[WisWildManFan]

Why would WoO have to follow Lucas with rules? Lucas put themselves on an island. Why follow? It is ludicrous that a handful of drivers and a couple series tech officials, lacking technical expertise, would dictate rules for thousands of racers.

Thousands of racers across the country don't want to compete against the 6 and the few others that have the budget to tune and test this "technical expertise". Why would any regional driver show up to a national series if they knew they were all behind the 8 ball when unloading from trailer.

[WisWildManFan]

There is roughly a month until races start again. If the WoO was going to change their rules to match Lucas', they would have done it already.

If this is true and the 6 runs WoO he will have way more wins then this past season... that will be fun for the fans.

[Josh Bayko]

If this is true and the 6 runs WoO he will have way more wins then this past season... that will be fun for the fans.

Clanton, Eckert, and Richards aren't pushovers, and they have more experience at the tracks on the WoO schedule.

[Josh Bayko]

Thousands of racers across the country don't want to compete against the 6 and the few others that have the budget to tune and test this "technical expertise". Why would any regional driver show up to a national series if they knew they were all behind the 8 ball when unloading from trailer.

If this is true, then why have both series seen full fields at all their shows the past few years?

[huskerdirt]

People need to stop assuming Davenport is gonna walk over to WoO and run for the title.

In fact stop assuming he's even gonna run a national tour. He needs sponsor dollars and last I knew he was still looking for some.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Thousands of racers across the country don't want to compete against the 6 and the few others that have the budget to tune and test this "technical expertise". Why would any regional driver show up to a national series if they knew they were all behind the 8 ball when unloading from trailer.

Funny, my thoughts are exactly the opposite of yours. I spent the last part of 2015 working on stuff and picked up speed. Why would I show up with less than my best, to race against the best, with guys who can afford to do testing that I can only dream about.

I feel handcuffed by the Lucas rules.

Anyone who thinks these rules puts them on some level playing field with the big money are fooling themselves. If you are not wind tunnel testing, shaker testing, data acq testing, you are not on a level playing field.

[Josh Bayko]

People need to stop assuming Davenport is gonna walk over to WoO and run for the title.

In fact stop assuming he's even gonna run a national tour. He needs sponsor dollars and last I knew he was still looking for some.

I tend to agree. I see him running the high dollar shows on both national tours, Eldora's biggies, and random shows the rest of the time.

[huskerdirt]

Funny, my thoughts are exactly the opposite of yours. I spent the last part of 2015 working on stuff and picked up speed. Why would I show up with less than my best, to race against the best, with guys who can afford to do testing that I can only dream about.

I feel handcuffed by the Lucas rules.

Anyone who thinks these rules puts them on some level playing field with the big money are fooling themselves. If you are not wind tunnel testing, shaker testing, data acq testing, you are not on a level playing field.

Please.... just stop.

I'm willing to bet you don't go fast enough to even have Lucas care what you have in you left rear.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Please.... just stop.

I'm willing to bet you don't go fast enough to even have Lucas care what you have in you left rear.

I bow down to your expertise.

Everyone should stop making assumptions but you.

[Barbecueboy]

People need to stop assuming Davenport is gonna walk over to WoO and run for the title.

In fact stop assuming he's even gonna run a national tour. He needs sponsor dollars and last I knew he was still looking for some.

Has it ever crossed your mind that some of the people that are chiming in on their ( the 6 team)plans for 2016 actually know them and are friends or colleagues???

Probably not,but just thought I would toss that into the mix of assumptions.

[huskerdirt]

Has it ever crossed your mind that some of the people that are chiming in on their ( the 6 team)plans for 2016 actually know them and are friends or colleagues???

Probably not,but just thought I would toss that into the mix of assumptions.

No.... Because every interview/statement Rumley and Davenport have said since the end of 2015 has been exactly the same. They aren't sure what they are gonna do... Partly because they need sponsor dollars(checkout those fuel prices). Once Lucas changed the shock rule. Just about everybody on here said he is going to run WoO..... assuming that's gonna happen.

The new shock rule has probably very little to do with there plans. Even if he ran WoO, he still is gonna enter some Lucas races(Brunswick for sure). So to me the thinking that JD won't run Lucas just because of the shock rule is ridiculous.

[NY DIRT]

No.... Because every interview/statement Rumley and Davenport have said since the end of 2015 has been exactly the same. They aren't sure what they are gonna do... Partly because they need sponsor dollars(checkout those fuel prices). Once Lucas changed the shock rule. Just about everybody on here said he is going to run WoO..... assuming that's gonna happen.

The new shock rule has probably very little to do with there plans. Even if he ran WoO, he still is gonna enter some Lucas races(Brunswick for sure). So to me the thinking that JD won't run Lucas just because of the shock rule is ridiculous.

If Davenport signs up to run the full Lucas tour, He gets $700 for each event plus an extra $300 per event for being last seasons defending champion. That sounds like a thousand dollars just to unload the car. The WOO does not pay anything close to that just to unload you race car. Unless Davenport is not competitive at Brunswick, I look for him to make another run for the Lucas title because big time late model racing is a business not a hobby and the money is in the Lucas series.

[Josh Bayko]

If Davenport signs up to run the full Lucas tour, He gets $700 for each event plus an extra $300 per event for being last seasons defending champion. That sounds like a thousand dollars just to unload the car. The WOO does not pay anything close to that just to unload you race car. Unless Davenport is not competitive at Brunswick, I look for him to make another run for the Lucas title because big time late model racing is a business not a hobby and the money is in the Lucas series.

I don't know where you get that the WoO doesn't "pay anything close to that". They pay just as much as Lucas just to show up (I think it's actually slightly more) as long as you make every show.

[WisWildManFan]

If this is true, then why have both series seen full fields at all their shows the past few years?

I'm saying if lucas did absolutely nothing to the rules, JD stayed super fast and guys like bloomer, Owens, Oneal, lanigan spent the time and money to figure out the same deal as 6 I think car counts would drop. You can look at it either way that lucas is protecting their stars against the 6 or they are thinking long term that car counts may drop if regionals don't show up. WoO and lucas are both extinct if only the series regulars show up.