Lucas Oil and WoO Rosters

[Kromulous]

WildMan and & NY DIRT have it nailed.

All about the $$, $1000 to pull in a race track is a sweet offer for Dport to run Lucas (points champ and gaurneteed start)

DLM racing needs the poor schleps, and the faster regional guys to race. Hell were the ones that buy the parts at retail, or a slight discounts. So they can inturn sponsors these hot shots.

Protect the box, I prefer to see it WildMans way.

[Josh Bayko]

I'm saying if lucas did absolutely nothing to the rules, JD stayed super fast and guys like bloomer, Owens, Oneal, lanigan spent the time and money to figure out the same deal as 6 I think car counts would drop. You can look at it either way that lucas is protecting their stars against the 6 or they are thinking long term that car counts may drop if regionals don't show up. WoO and lucas are both extinct if only the series regulars show up.

You're making a huge mistake (and Lucas is, too), by thinking that the 6 car is the one car driving costs in late model racing. It's not any one car, it's everybody, and there is no rule any sanctioning body is ever going to put in place that's going to save anybody a bit of money. The dudes that have it will spend it by the truckload, and the dudes that don't will continue to spend what they can because they're passionate about racing. The gap between the haves and have nots is no bigger now than it was 10, 20, or even 50 years ago.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Has it ever crossed your mind that some of the people that are chiming in on their ( the 6 team)plans for 2016 actually know them and are friends or colleagues???

Probably not,but just thought I would toss that into the mix of assumptions.

Prolly yes no assumption there bbq!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm saying if lucas did absolutely nothing to the rules, JD stayed super fast and guys like bloomer, Owens, Oneal, lanigan spent the time and money to figure out the same deal as 6 I think car counts would drop. You can look at it either way that lucas is protecting their stars against the 6 or they are thinking long term that car counts may drop if regionals don't show up. WoO and lucas are both extinct if only the series regulars show up.

A couple other guys figure it out. Then everyone gets it. Then everyone has a better car. Just like all the other improvements over the years.

What happened to the 6 at the dtwc and other shows down the stretch? It wasn't like people hadn't been catching up.

[plunks7]

Am I missing something? The year before Jd had his glory. Wasn't it about Bloomquist, Owens, Lanigan ect. Running some sort of shock package that other drivers were complaining about. So they did away with what they had in the first place. And know Rumley came up with just about the same thing and let it slide.

[bullring]

Clanton, Eckert, and Richards aren't pushovers, and they have more experience at the tracks on the WoO schedule.

Put Bloomquist, Owens, and Oneal against those 3 guys and Lucas wins 9 out of 10 times.

[Josh Bayko]

Put Bloomquist, Owens, and Oneal against those 3 guys and Lucas wins 9 out of 10 times.

Hardly. Owens won 2 races last year. O'Neal won 1 race last year. The perceived strength of the Lucas series rests mostly on Bloomer and Davenport.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Am I missing something? The year before Jd had his glory. Wasn't it about Bloomquist, Owens, Lanigan ect. Running some sort of shock package that other drivers were complaining about. So they did away with what they had in the first place. And know Rumley came up with just about the same thing and let it slide.

You couldn't be more wrong. Rumley beat them with steel, rod ends, and pieces of rubber. No exotic shocks or other cost prohibitive items were involved.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I am all for keeping exotic pieces of expensive technology out. I am not for taking away a guys right to build a better beam axle suspension to win some races.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Am I missing something? The year before Jd had his glory. Wasn't it about Bloomquist, Owens, Lanigan ect. Running some sort of shock package that other drivers were complaining about. So they did away with what they had in the first place. And know Rumley came up with just about the same thing and let it slide.

Rumleys trick was somthing most teams could afford. Bloomers shock deal was very pricy.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Rumleys trick was somthing most teams could afford. Bloomers shock deal was very pricy.

Every team.

[brainbucket]

Put Bloomquist, Owens, and Oneal against those 3 guys and Lucas wins 9 out of 10 times.

Really because last year Clanton took 4 out of 5 at Volusia during Speedweeks.

[bleedblue55]

If Davenport signs up to run the full Lucas tour, He gets $700 for each event plus an extra $300 per event for being last seasons defending champion. That sounds like a thousand dollars just to unload the car. The WOO does not pay anything close to that just to unload you race car. Unless Davenport is not competitive at Brunswick, I look for him to make another run for the Lucas title because big time late model racing is a business not a hobby and the money is in the Lucas series.

Doesn't WOO pay their champion 25% more, $100,000 versus $75,000. Based on a 50 race schedule Lucas champ would have to get $500 more show up money per race than WOO to make up the difference.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Rumleys Device

If it was so easy and cheap, why didn't everyone have it? You all act like he went to Summit or Jegs and bought it off the shelf. It was testing, I'm guessing computer modeling, data acq, trial and error etc. was the end result expensive, no, but to get there was. Bloomer and whoever else was running them shocks, yeah they were a lot, but anyone who had the cash could get them and run them. Not need an engineering degree to get it right.

It's funny the hypocrisy on here. Bloomer or Rocket came out with this and you'd be off with their heads asap. But poor Kevin comes out with it and it was a conspiracy by Bloomer and Lucas to get it outlawed. Most of the people they talked to, chassis builders, regional, and national teams, said we gotta nip this in the butt. And Kevin wanted more defined rules, so here they are.

You wanna outlaw one thing because you don't like the guy, and allow another because you perceive him as a good ole boy. Well, it's rules, not a favoritism contest, so you outlaw one trick, mine as well get the next. And down this slope we go. And if WoO, which I don't see them doing it, doesn't follow Lucas, I think it'll hurt late models in general till they unify the rules.

And as I've said countless times. The dude is smart, JD is a wheelman, but he's too smart for dirt late models honestly. They are going to paint him in a box, right or wrong.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I do hope that Davenport and the Rumleys tell the Lucas Oil/Bloomquist series where to stick it and run the WoO Series. It would sound better, in my opinion, to be able to say one is both the WoO champion and the Lucas Oil
champion.....from a career achievement standpoint.

How is it the Bloomquist series? Hadn't won the championship in a few years, two years ago they voted to not give him hardship points and Lucas didn't overrule it. And pretty much everyone they talked to according to Lucas, wanted something done. And Lucas made a business decision. Not going to be many cars left if you let Kevin just come up with gadget after gadget. Right or wrong, they had to do something. Because it's not like Kevin's brain is going to stop working on that device. And I don't think they can outthink him anyway, so we shall see.