Rule changes must be considered carefully

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  • Returning to Dirt
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 5046

    #1

    Rule changes must be considered carefully



    If either or both of the two national Late Model series make any rule changes, they have a lot to consider before doing so.
  • Josh Bayko
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 8734

    #2
    If the Lucas series were to change the rules and WoO/UMP did not, it could be very detrimental to Lucas (and vice versa). I could see that happening, too. Davenport runs the Lucas series, those are the guys whining the loudest.
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    • Bubstr
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 3734

      #3
      If changing the rules was c;ear cut right thing to do, they would have done it at the PIR show. They dn't change them because they know, their, save money reason was weak at best. They don't have the guts to outlaw most of the things that really add up to big costs. They think they can afford to piss off one race team, but not all the established vendors.

      If a rule goes threw, that excludes one teams technology, who would try to develop any new tech, costly or not? If you can't build a better mouse trap, why play the game? It will dumb down DLM racing as a whole. The real costs will be to get that expensive .010 second out of a overly restricted car, just like NASCAR. The racing would more than likly suffer also, with all cars the same cookie cutter cars, limiting any passing.

      Why not just go back to truck arm suspension, no gas shocks, production blocks and heads, and one harder than Superman's knee cap tire.

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      • hucktyson
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 1903

        #4
        It's hypoticritical that all of you clowns loved it when they took away bloomers shocks ... If bloomer was allowed to keep his shocks davensnort would have been racing for second with his left rear . If your going to let snort run the left rear then let bloomer run his shocks. There's 50 million combinations available with a standard 4 link suspensions and no need for anything beyond that

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        • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 7658

          #5
          Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
          It's hypoticritical that all of you clowns loved it when they took away bloomers shocks ... If bloomer was allowed to keep his shocks davensnort would have been racing for second with his left rear . If your going to let snort run the left rear then let bloomer run his shocks. There's 50 million combinations available with a standard 4 link suspensions and no need for anything beyond that
          Your a clown!
          THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14304

            #6
            Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
            It's hypoticritical that all of you clowns loved it when they took away bloomers shocks ... If bloomer was allowed to keep his shocks davensnort would have been racing for second with his left rear . If your going to let snort run the left rear then let bloomer run his shocks. There's 50 million combinations available with a standard 4 link suspensions and no need for anything beyond that
            Bloomers deal was an extremely expensive bolt-on, that the average guy couldn't build. No comparison at all. Aithough, I believe Rumley deal would have been a cheap way to gain on that inerter and make it less of an advantage.

            And bloomer wouldn't still be dominating. All the cars would just cost that 18k more.
            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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            • Barbecueboy
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 18116

              #7
              Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View Post
              Your an a ss clown!
              There ya go.......fixed it for you.

              And yes........he is.
              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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              • hucktyson
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 1903

                #8
                If we're not going to allow inerters why don't we just go back to off the shelf Monroe truck shocks and multi stack leaf rears with steel wheels ???? It's your same stupid argument . You guys fighting for advanced technology act like if the device stays legal your going to go lap davensnort with his own set up. The local guy has a much better chance of staying competitive if you limit things like they have discussed

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                • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 7658

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                  Bloomers deal was an extremely expensive bolt-on, that the average guy couldn't build. No comparison at all. Aithough, I believe Rumley deal would have been a cheap way to gain on that inerter and make it less of an advantage.

                  And bloomer wouldn't still be dominating. All the cars would just cost that 18k more.
                  There you go! Thank you!
                  THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                  • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 7658

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                    There ya go.......fixed it for you.

                    And yes........he is.

                    Thank you too BBQ!
                    THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14304

                      #11
                      Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
                      If we're not going to allow inerters why don't we just go back to off the shelf Monroe truck shocks and multi stack leaf rears with steel wheels ???? It's your same stupid argument . You guys fighting for advanced technology act like if the device stays legal your going to go lap davensnort with his own set up. The local guy has a much better chance of staying competitive if you limit things like they have discussed
                      Rumleys device is not advanced technology. And inerters have very limited use in motorsports. We should avoid extremely expensive gadgets. We should not stifle creativity. I was looking forward to this season more than any ever. All the stuff people were trying was very interesting to me.

                      Your last line does not apply to me personally at all. I made gains this year simply making something that I knew would produce the same visual effects of the Rumley device. I hadn't even see pictures of it yet.
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • Kwd1253
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2262

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
                        It's hypoticritical that all of you clowns loved it when they took away bloomers shocks ... If bloomer was allowed to keep his shocks davensnort would have been racing for second with his left rear . If your going to let snort run the left rear then let bloomer run his shocks. There's 50 million combinations available with a standard 4 link suspensions and no need for anything beyond that
                        Well if you do that let scott have his 15-18k, they wouldnt stop there. Someone would do more tec stuff to it and run it up to 20k. The say Rumley started to add his gadget on it run it up more 22-25k. I think lucas and woo are doing so far not it turn in to nascrap. What local wkend racer can will be able buy that, top founded regional driver would have problems buying that. How much is the over head to maintain it or rebuild the system. But if lucas and woo really worry about cost of racing for wkend racers and regional drivers? I think they should talk all regional tours promotion go to limited motor, if you got a top engine builder it only run 15-20k and you can buy 2 of price of top end open motor. If you want run against nation tour or crown jewel, when they go to a track you know you can run with or beat them. You buy one top end open motor or build one. Or simple everyone go to a limited motor package that not going cost you 30-45k to buy one. But I don't ever won't see super late models go nascrap way.
                        Last edited by Kwd1253; 12-21-2015, 02:46 PM.

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14304

                          #13
                          Its funny when the guys who are used to just buying speed get upset when it is all sold out!
                          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                          • Kromulous
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3008

                            #14
                            Bloomquist's use of an inerter was creative, not his fault its so expensive. He races for a living, supporting his family, and retirement, he has to look for the best fix and easiest to implement and win.

                            Rumley device is creative as well, does it need banned? i don't know, if, and its a big dam if, Lucas is concerned about costs of DLM racing they may be inclined too ban it. Although i don't think it would be that expensive to produce.

                            Lucas would could save the costs of the above combined by simply banning wide bore engines.

                            Just say no...

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                            • hucktyson
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 1903

                              #15
                              You can't ban spread bores now , just make them add 50lb ahead of the radiator ... Lol

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