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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #76
    Originally posted by tsand View Post
    everbody acting like this is the end of latemodels all the series doing is going back to what everbody was running 14 months ago and what 98% of drivers are still running. These rules only effect
    A hand full of drivers.
    68.257 % of statistics are made up on the fly.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • rickybrown1952
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 1448

      #77
      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
      Plenty of time to change several races in
      Are u kidding me no that IS his schedule for the year
      I am what I am

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14324

        #78
        Originally posted by rickybrown1952 View Post
        Are u kidding me no that IS his schedule for the year
        You are right. I have never seen a racer change schedule.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • SuperEight
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 318

          #79
          David's slingshot outlawed Goliath's request.

          Originally posted by tsand View Post
          everbody acting like this is the end of latemodels all the series doing is going back to what everbody was running 14 months ago and what 98% of drivers are still running. These rules only effect
          A hand full of drivers.
          They effect anybody coming up with their own idea and being able to run it, that's the point. The only people not upset by this are the same ones who lack the vision, creativity or courage to go outside the freaking box. I myself sent Mr Ritchie an email voicing my disgust with this whole situation and discontinued my subscription to their emails. I realize this has no direct effect on them, but I felt I had to say something.
          Left 4M and Dirt Late Model racing, 04/12/2016 @12:06AM.

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          • Mike
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1949

            #80
            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
            That wasn't really technology. Just big surfaces with down force and drag. I was talking about rules to "dumb down" parts.
            Didn't Charlie understand down force and drag better then anybody at that point or maybe he was just the first to exploit the grey area in the rules. Either way the bodies were certainly dumbed down for awhile when the wedge cars were outlawed.

            Of coarse the wind tunnel tested bodies of today are no longer dumbed down and work as a package with those other parts to give you something similar to the old wedge cars.
            Last edited by Mike; 12-25-2015, 04:04 PM.
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            • b1eagle
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 382

              #81
              new rules

              I agree with Tsand new rules is what most are running

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              • taylor2727
                Senior Member
                • May 2013
                • 203

                #82
                Isn't pretty much every car in the country illegal with swiveling shock mounts ? And what about older cars with the cage height rule ? Pierce cars cant run the traction shock on axle tube or anyone else that runs shock on clamp bracket.?

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                • hucktyson
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 1903

                  #83
                  There's plenty of clevis is style shock
                  Mounts available that don't swivel when they are tight.

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                  • billetbirdcage
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2020

                    #84
                    Originally posted by taylor2727 View Post
                    Isn't pretty much every car in the country illegal with swiveling shock mounts ? And what about older cars with the cage height rule ? Pierce cars cant run the traction shock on axle tube or anyone else that runs shock on clamp bracket.?
                    Cage shock mounts: Realistically, this is an oversight by the people writing/wording the rules. If it isn't changed before racing starts it won't be enforced, IMO.

                    I also believe, you won't see WoO following lucas least to the degree Lucas did. I believe their rules will be much simpler, more defined, and less limiting and won't limit creativity as much.
                    Last edited by billetbirdcage; 12-25-2015, 07:37 PM.

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #85
                      Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
                      Here's the bottom line , rumley is pissed he's back to the drawing board so he try's to outsmart you geniuses by spinning a narrative that he can design the same thing to beat the rules but it will cost a million dollars .... He's using your own stupidity against you , you can't build
                      What he has under the new rules for any amount of money . Master racer suggested he could engineer solid 4 links that act like spring rods except Lucas mandated the thickness , diameter and material for the 4 link rods. You going to have to man up and out wheel the single greatest talent to ever strap in if you want to win now !! Your not going to win jumping the cushion 3 times a lap now because you have a gadget on the left rear ... This is going to put it back in the drivers hands and you guys ALL know (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) well that scenario stacks the odds in the favor of the GOAT Mr Bloomquist
                      You are going to upset some people with these facts. lol

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                      • rickybrown1952
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 1448

                        #86
                        Can someone please put on here exactly what the rule changes are
                        I am what I am

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                        • slmcrewchief99
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 738

                          #87
                          Go to the LUCAS Oil Series website Ricky. The new rules are posted.

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                          • onlyfacts
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 395

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
                            Just measured the new rocket cars I have at my shop for customers and all 3 only have 37.5" in the drivers compartment . No floors even installed yet!
                            You will find there isn't many cars that will be legal with this rule and now that Lucas has set the rule it will be interesting. They say it is from the floor to top of roll cage bar.. But that isn't what the rule in black and white says. Don't worry though they have too many other rules that they will be tied upon to be measuring cage heights.

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