Penalties For Tire Tampering- REVOLUTION Super Late Model Series

[kidrock]

I have no dog in this fight, however when I worked for a touring asphalt series we required that any new tires for event be purchased at the track where a series official was present and the tires were mounted and kept in impound until the feature was ready to line up. The tires for qualifying and heats had to be from previous race. All tires were branded for the series and serial numbered. This was checked at every race, you had to turn in old tires when new purchased and #s were verified to be to that car/driver. It was a lot of work but seemed to help, we at least knew the money race was ran on unaltered tires. I know that it is probably unreasonable to expect to make everyone replace all 4 tires every race but might work if only allowed 1 new tire per night on vehicle. Just an idea.

And that would end it right there.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

And that would end it right there.

That would send all the low buck guys to the porch, for sure

[RoundNrOUND]

Yes it would. A one tire rule a night does not and will not work, it will only expose the lower budget guys even more.

[formercrewguy]

As usual on 4m.....this thread turned semi-insane. Stay tuned for full blown insanity.....

[kidrock]

That would send all the low buck guys to the porch, for sure

If they wanted to end tire doping that would be a way to do it.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If they wanted to end tire doping that would be a way to do it.

It would eliminate all but quick application stuff. And keep a lot of guys at home.

[CGF]

Most use blue ridge lab,,,

[let-r-eat]

Just throwing out ideas that I've seen used on asphalt etc. This is a LATE MODEL series isn't it?

[Kromulous]

Reality is, nothing is as fast as a new set of cut and siped tires.

Only thing i could think of that may or probably wont work would be, to do like they do in Karting. When you go out for your heat race, your tires are marked, and that's what you run till the end. If you cut a tire, and need to put a new one on you go to the tail.

Roundnround nailed it thou, tire rules dont generally don't work because of my 1st statement. Your usually talking .3 to .5 tenths a lap with new tires over a tire with 5 to 10 runs on it.

Better tires that don't fall off as much?

Racing in general has a harsh reality, and if your looking for fair you probably need to look into another sport.

[Jimmy Henry]

You are exactly right, Kromulous.

Our tire rule will be,whatever you hot lap with is what you will run all night. Tires will be marked.

[zach51]

I honestly don't know much about tires, but if you make them run the same tires they hot lap with all night, wouldn't you also need to impound maybe 2 additional tires from each team at the drivers meeting to use in the event of a flat (or two) during the evening? That way they wouldn't be enticed to get a mystery pinhole right before the feature and ask to change a tire...?

[oldfart50]

This is only my opinion, BUT. You are 180 degrees off what I would do. I would pick a tire and say boys do what you want with it as long as its the series tire. Then you have an equal opportunity to compete. It is on the racer to prep them better than the next guy. Treated tires last longer, they do not wear out faster. That depends on the track surface. Put it in the racers hands. I would also make traction control legal. When you make things legal you no longer have to police it and the price comes down. You as a series cant afford to suspend drivers as they are your show. Before you say making tire prep legal is dangerous because of the chemicals I will remind you of two things. 1- guys are already doing it. 2- you sign a release for a reason, racing is dangerous and can kill you...

[Barbecueboy]

This is only my opinion, BUT. You are 180 degrees off what I would do. I would pick a tire and say boys do what you want with it as long as its the series tire. Then you have an equal opportunity to compete. It is on the racer to prep them better than the next guy. Treated tires last longer, they do not wear out faster. That depends on the track surface. Put it in the racers hands. I would also make traction control legal. When you make things legal you no longer have to police it and the price comes down. You as a series cant afford to suspend drivers as they are your show. Before you say making tire prep legal is dangerous because of the chemicals I will remind you of two things. 1- guys are already doing it. 2- you sign a release for a reason, racing is dangerous and can kill you...

Nice post..............never ever gonna happen, but nice post.

[oldfart50]

Nice post..............never ever gonna happen, but nice post.

Thanks, but are you feeling OK? High Fever maybe?

[SuperEight]

Policing tires are going to be the backbone of this series.
Make no mistake, we are very serious about tire tampering and this series will only be as good as its teching.

Racers, since this is YOUR series, what are appropriate penalties for tire rules infractions?

Thanks,

Jimmy Henry
REVOLUTION Super Late Model Series
"For the racers, by the racers"

1 year suspension.