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  • W2Racing09
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 1691

    #1

    Mopar Power

    This is just an interesting topic I was talking with someone about last weekend. Is anyone at all running a Mopar Powered SLM on a National/Regional or even a local level? A quick search on google reveals that it is possible to make a powerful mopar motor, and there is some discussion but nothing ever materialized, and nobody referenced any engine builders associated with DLM racing who are making them.
  • Barbecueboy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 18116

    #2
    Larry Wallace made dodge motors for Epj a while back, but haven't really heard of anybody else running nationally with them........

    There is a local guy that runs around the Carolina's named Sean Harrell that has a Larry Wallace power plant in his super I believe......or at least did.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    • JJ128
      Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 92

      #3
      Steve Francis did in the 2003 to 2006 range, Ray Cook around that time or a little later. EPJ was the last one I remember running one "nationally", and that has been at least 5 years ago? My years are just estimates from memory, I'm sure you could investigate and get more accurate. There are probably a few local guys that got the good stuff cheap from those guys and still run them but I don't know of any for sure. I think Stanton did some of the Mopar stuff and maybe Larry Wallace.

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      • hex8320
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 37

        #4
        Brian Lowery races at Bedford speedway in PA. He runs a Mopar in the limited late model class and does pretty well. I believe it is a 360

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        • SuperEight
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 318

          #5
          Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
          This is just an interesting topic I was talking with someone about last weekend. Is anyone at all running a Mopar Powered SLM on a National/Regional or even a local level? A quick search on google reveals that it is possible to make a powerful mopar motor, and there is some discussion but nothing ever materialized, and nobody referenced any engine builders associated with DLM racing who are making them.
          GARY STANTON. He specializes in Mopar, he built most of Steve Francis and Ray Cooks Mopar motors and then Ernie Elliott came along near the end and did some of the head work. I don't know of anyone nationally running them now. I wouldnt mess with the Nascar designed stuff as its harder to find cranks for that give you enough stroke, but the W9 stuff is awesome in the right hands. Jonathan davenport drove for a team in the mid 2000's that ran Mopar and they would flat EAT!!! Once the economy tanked and the Dodge Nascar resurgence lost momentum and faded, all the factory monetary support dried up, but they still make some really cool potent stuff. I hope to incorporate one of Gary's creations into my program very $oon.
          Left 4M and Dirt Late Model racing, 04/12/2016 @12:06AM.

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          • MI Dirt Fan
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 8806

            #6
            We have a guy here in MI runs one. Can't think of his name right now. Really isn't a front runner at his weekly track. Smaller budget guy.

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            • Krooser
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 3117

              #7
              I bought a 396 SBM last fall. Needs some repair but it has real good parts. It's a 360 block with W2 heads, Mopar intake, port matched... With a 20 year old Mopar flat tap pet cam it clocked 575 HP... Should see north of 600 with a modern grind. The lifter bank angle on a stock block is tuff on roller lifters if you spin em more than 7000. The race blocks have a 48 degree angle which works better. Other than that they work good... Have a 50mm cam bore, room for a 4 1/4 " stroke, 904 lifters, shaft rockers...
              Member of the Luxemburg Speedway Hall of Fame
              Class of 2019

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              • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 7658

                #8
                Is one reason they dont run them much is that parts are scarce in pit area if you were needed to borrow broken motor that was repairable to still race that night or no?
                THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                • RoundNrOUND
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 573

                  #9
                  Aren't they quite a bit heavier?

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                  • RW57
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 662

                    #10
                    They are heavier the crank alone weighs 58# I think on a stock 360 .We race a clip 3 link late model car.We run chevy claimer type engine. We have a couple of mopar 360 that compete but they cost a boatload of money 6 to 8 grand our Chevy's we are putting one together now that we will have about 1200 bucks in.race ready .I think cost is the major reason people don't run them.

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                    • lm3754
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 3

                      #11
                      Moring's mopars went to Australia

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                      • SuperEight
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 318

                        #12
                        Call Gary Stanton.
                        Left 4M and Dirt Late Model racing, 04/12/2016 @12:06AM.

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                        • NormP
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2262

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JJ128 View Post
                          Steve Francis did in the 2003 to 2006 range,
                          Gary Stanton built those mopar engines for Francis, and they were plenty good enough to help him win races with them.

                          Edit: Well looks like if I had read the rest of the messages I would have seen that Stanton has already been mentioned.

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                          • Mopar DLM
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 216

                            #14
                            cost is not the main factor. once you get to the all aluminum level making 800 HP they all cost about the same. weight should not be a factor either as a small block dodge is 25lbs lighter than a small block chevy in factory form. Chrysler was smart enough to use a aluminum water pump and timing cover on all factory engines plus the starter is on the left side where you would want the extra weight in a dirt car. I have two of the aluminum mopar engines and race ready carb to oil pan the 456 ci weights 346 lbs and the 410 ci is 340 lbs. Gaerte and Malcuit still build some mopar engines.

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                            • SuperEight
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 318

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mopar DLM View Post
                              cost is not the main factor. once you get to the all aluminum level making 800 HP they all cost about the same. weight should not be a factor either as a small block dodge is 25lbs lighter than a small block chevy in factory form. Chrysler was smart enough to use a aluminum water pump and timing cover on all factory engines plus the starter is on the left side where you would want the extra weight in a dirt car. I have two of the aluminum mopar engines and race ready carb to oil pan the 456 ci weights 346 lbs and the 410 ci is 340 lbs. Gaerte and Malcuit still build some mopar engines.
                              Now we're talking!!!
                              Left 4M and Dirt Late Model racing, 04/12/2016 @12:06AM.

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