From Angie Pierce Facebook page - A thought on Racer Safety - From Racer Russ Adams..

[HoosierDirtFan]

Via Angie Pierce Facebook Page - Not a bad idea.
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Attention: All Racers and Families
In Light of the recent tragedy to one of our racing family we are all on high alert to make attempts at making our sport safer.
Fellow racer Russ Adams called me with a great idea and I am doing my part to pass in on, promote it, yell it!!! His idea is for each of us who has a four wheeler in the pit area to each carry a fire extinguisher and a saw-zaw on board. As we know, there's always an abundance of crew guys with 4 wheelers, if all of them have these items, we can make a heck of an attempt at saving lives!
THIS IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO STEP UP AND SECURE OUR OWN SAFETY! The tracks and sanctioning bodies are each talking, and preparing for future precautionary plans but we need to step up now, starting this weekend, immediately each of us need to carry these! We can save each other.. We are a big enough racing family to pull together and each do our part. This is an affordable , quick help plan! We owe it to our drivers and their families, so please pass this along, share it, and please equip your 4 wheeler at all tracks across the nation this weekend.
We never want to lose another member of our racing family so tragically! RIP Charlie Floyd.

[kidrock]

Sounds like a good plan, maybe now tracks will start to check safety on each and every car. Updated seat belts, seat belts mounted correctly, a fire extinguisher on board, fire suits, helmets ect,ect RIP Charlie Floyd

[ClampedUp]

Here's what really needs to happen.
Every time you pull into a track you need to ask what they have/do for EMS equipment and TRAINED people. Then you need to ask them to see and read their insurance policy which is required by law if you ask to see it.
If they just have a truck load of who knows how old fire extinguishers or some old water truck the made into a "fire truck" TURN AROUND AND LEAVE. If they claim they have the local VFD on "standby" TURN AROUND AND LEAVE.
If they won't let you read the insurance policy to see the coverage's TURN AROUND AND LEAVE because it's a very good chance they do not have insurance.
Is that piece of plastic trophy and a few dollars worth your life and putting your family through hell??
And yes I have turned around and left more than a few tracks that obviously put their wallet at a higher priority than their drivers, crews, and fans safety.

[PennDirt]

Our sport has spent years if not decades training the minds of crew members to not react with rushing the track in these situations. While most 'ideas' are reactionary to an extremely tragic event, I'm sure they mean well in looking for better solutions but giving trained professionals the clearest possible unobstructed path will have the most benefit and best possible outcome.

The many posts offering personal inventory for car safety, driver protection, track preparedness and a high level of coverage are our best hope. Scrambling a brigade of 4-wheelers isn't going to be an option tracks are going to readily accept as a solution.

[Matt49]

Maybe the major sanctioning bodies should have spent as much time discussing this topic as they did banning suspension components. It sure seems a lot more important in light of this recent tragedy. Leadership in this area needs to come from the top and Lucas/WoO can lead by example and set a high standard for track safety. Us local guys are not professionals racers but most of us do our best to provide ourselves with the best personal safety equipment possible. We owe it to ourselves to demand the same level of professional safety personnel at all events and all tracks.

[Kromulous]

I agree with Pierce, worst case scenario, its gonna be a good thing having 10, 25, even 50 extra extinguishers around. Even if the pit crew people just hand them off to track safety crews.

Its a better alternative than watching a guy burn to death over 5 minutes, 5 ! think about that while.

Also i think Clampedup Nailed it, just turn around and go home. If thats your only track around, sell your stuff, not worth it. We never have left because of it, but we never went back to certain tracks because of lack of safety concerns.

Agree with Matt49, Woo and Lucas need to lead by example. I am sure they can afford to outfit there on safety truck. Plus some of these tracks are very profitable, time to ante up...

[swartzman]

i have seen a track have a dump truck loaded with lime before.. not a bad idea..

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I know she means well, and if guys wanna make it a point to carry a fire extinguisher, a good size one, 40lbs, I think it's a great idea. But they cannot be all rushing the track in tshirts and jeans trying to fight a fire. Properly trained people with the proper PPE, and knowing how to use it, saves lives, and prevents accidents. Another driver in this case seems to be the only one who coulda done anything. But I haven't, and will not, watch the video, so it may have been too late from the get go without the proper tools.

PennDirt and Clamped Up said it best.

[old fan]

How in the heck do these tracks get or keep insurance ,like matt 49 said instead of worrying about certain things on the car how about getting a handle on safety

[zach51]

Kind of what CNB said, another driver in a suit might have been able to get in there to help without risking as much injury. I know many folks here may or may not have heard the story, but you can see it at the link below. I am more familiar with this than most just because I used to race with both (and get whipped by them). Donnie Ray was a true hero and saved Harli's life. She made a full recovery minus a lot of scars, and is still kicking arse in a sprint car. Donnie was tragically murdered on the morning of the Chili Bowl finale a few years back. That was a sad day. Take the time and watch this if you haven't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvGlvkH2d-8

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Kind of what CNB said, another driver in a suit might have been able to get in there to help without risking as much injury. I know many folks here may or may not have heard the story, but you can see it at the link below. I am more familiar with this than most just because I used to race with both (and get whipped by them). Donnie Ray was a true hero and saved Harli's life. She made a full recovery minus a lot of scars, and is still kicking arse in a sprint car. Donnie was tragically murdered on the morning of the Chili Bowl finale a few years back. That was a sad day. Take the time and watch this if you haven't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvGlvkH2d-8

Yeah, his Dad or Uncle wasn't it? They were fukin crazy. Killed him at the kitchen table I believe. Very sad and yes, he saved her life. Read up on her and him, very sad, but touching too.

[RRRKKK]

If tracks start checking safety equipment they are making themselves liable! They said my car was safe to race I got hurt now it's their fault and I am gonna sue! Anyone remember Wolfgang suing the voluntary fireman that tried too help him.

[zach51]

CNB it was his grandfather (his mom's father). I didnt even want to go to the Chili Bowl that day after hearing that news that morning, but I was there with a couple of my buddies and I rode with them so I didn't have much choice. It was definitely a bad/sad deal. They increased the race from 50 to 55 laps in his honor and still run 55 since.

[ClampedUp]

How in the heck do these tracks get or keep insurance ,like matt 49 said instead of worrying about certain things on the car how about getting a handle on safety

Do they have insurance in the first place.......
It is your right by law to ask them to see the policy and coverage they have if they claim to have insurance coverage.
If the track refuses to provide you with that information refuse to give them your money and leave.
BTW that "release" you sign when you enter the pits isn't worth the paper it's written on and has been proven as such in legal cases.....