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  • HoosierDirtFan
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 22186

    #1

    Dirt Track Racing & Social Media Negativity. Good article to read.

    Dirt Track Racing & Social Media Negativity.
    Good article to read.
    Link - http://www.smallcarweekly.com/2016/0...dia-negativity
    Nathan Stephens

    Next Race - 7/20 TBA
    2024 Season: 14 - Brownstown (IN) 2, Fairbury (IL) 2, Farmer City (IL) 1, Grundy Co (IL) 1, Kankakee (IL) 2, & Shadyhill (IN) 6
  • Hoosier_Dirt
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 1632

    #2
    I can think of a few who need to read this!

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    • Barbecueboy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 18116

      #3
      Great, another article about how social media is to blame for the demise of dirt track racing.........

      When does the follow up article about poor mgmt, poor promotion, favoritism, rules enforcement, cost of goods and time management etc. going to be released?

      I guess blaming others for your own demise is indeed the new American way.

      There will always be hotheaded biased posts on about anything and on any forum......most true fans or curious interested fans know the difference between real constructive critisism and just a pissed off fan or crew member or whatever.

      The tracks or attractions or restaurants or whatever's that blame their failure all on social media need to realize that it's them and their plan and execution of said plan is what brings on the true negative social media posts, not the other way around.

      On the net You can blame anyone for anything, in reality the blame for failure normally lies at the doorstep of the group or person making , executing and working a bad plan to begin with.
      Last edited by Barbecueboy; 05-12-2016, 06:50 PM.
      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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      • dirtMAN007
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 5691

        #4
        Relation of Ben Shelton maybe ?

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        • fryefan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3547

          #5
          Good article.

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          • chupp n bloomer fan
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 11526

            #6
            Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
            Great, another article about how social media is to blame for the demise of dirt track racing.........

            When does the follow up article about poor mgmt, poor promotion, favoritism, rules enforcement, cost of goods and time management etc. going to be released?

            I guess blaming others for your own demise is indeed the new American way.

            There will always be hotheaded biased posts on about anything and on any forum......most true fans or curious interested fans know the difference between real constructive critisism and just a pissed off fan or crew member or whatever.

            The tracks or attractions or restaurants or whatever's that blame their failure all on social media need to realize that it's them and their plan and execution of said plan is what brings on the true negative social media posts, not the other way around.

            On the net You can blame anyone for anything, in reality the blame for failure normally lies at the doorstep of the group or person making , executing and working a bad plan to begin with.
            Yes it is the new American way. Zero accountability. Nice post BBQ.
            Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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            • CMatich
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 139

              #7
              While I do agree that social media has it's place for discussion of various issues related to our sport, it seems that social media quickly moves to plain bashing by many uninformed people hiding behind computer screens.

              Let's look at some posts from the Illini 100 weekend and talk about "zero accountability".

              "Fairbury is owned by the town"......No
              "I see this being it for the Illini"....why?
              "from what I was told there are some drivers pulling out and going home".....did anybody actually leave?
              "Fairboard don't support the track"....how wrong is this statement!
              "not a good seat in the house"....in who's opinion and how in the he!! does it that get fixed anyways?
              "hit or miss track conditions"....not really
              "no scoreboard"...when did scoreboards become needed in dirt racing?
              "why do they even have this race in the first place"....wth....to make $ for weekly shows and improvements
              "Izzo probably laughing his ass off"....why?
              "the race is now May 13th"....wrong
              "I'm just glad I'm not sitting in FC today. They are going to collect money all day and then call the weekend".....wrong
              "It was already called"...wrong
              "they won't have anymore fans so they will end up calling it"...wrong

              The above misinformed posts did nothing to help the event and probably did damage...since everything on the internet is true. How about holding the above posters accountable just like tracks are supposed to be?

              Look, I'm all for having great discussions and disagreements, but only if those involved know the facts on the topics being posted.

              Do race tracks need improvements? Yes!. Does FC need better bathrooms? Yes. The only way improvements happen is by fans supporting race tracks, not hiding behind a computer screen and bashing without knowing the facts.

              I think we all forget that back in the old days we all drove to race tracks not knowing who was going to be there, what the weather was like etc. Guess, what? We didn't complain to the universe, we just took it all in stride as part of the fun we were trying to have. Seems to me the crowds were way bigger back in the old days as well. Coincidence?

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              • Josh Bayko
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 8737

                #8
                A good promoter reads the criticism and realizes what they have to work on. A poor promoter reads the criticism and blames it for their shortcomings. Around my way, I've seen it work both ways.
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                • W2Racing09
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1691

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CMatich View Post
                  While I do agree that social media has it's place for discussion of various issues related to our sport, it seems that social media quickly moves to plain bashing by many uninformed people hiding behind computer screens.

                  Let's look at some posts from the Illini 100 weekend and talk about "zero accountability".

                  "Fairbury is owned by the town"......No
                  "I see this being it for the Illini"....why?
                  "from what I was told there are some drivers pulling out and going home".....did anybody actually leave?
                  "Fairboard don't support the track"....how wrong is this statement!
                  "not a good seat in the house"....in who's opinion and how in the he!! does it that get fixed anyways?
                  "hit or miss track conditions"....not really
                  "no scoreboard"...when did scoreboards become needed in dirt racing?
                  "why do they even have this race in the first place"....wth....to make $ for weekly shows and improvements
                  "Izzo probably laughing his ass off"....why?
                  "the race is now May 13th"....wrong
                  "I'm just glad I'm not sitting in FC today. They are going to collect money all day and then call the weekend".....wrong
                  "It was already called"...wrong
                  "they won't have anymore fans so they will end up calling it"...wrong

                  The above misinformed posts did nothing to help the event and probably did damage...since everything on the internet is true. How about holding the above posters accountable just like tracks are supposed to be?

                  Look, I'm all for having great discussions and disagreements, but only if those involved know the facts on the topics being posted.

                  Do race tracks need improvements? Yes!. Does FC need better bathrooms? Yes. The only way improvements happen is by fans supporting race tracks, not hiding behind a computer screen and bashing without knowing the facts.

                  I think we all forget that back in the old days we all drove to race tracks not knowing who was going to be there, what the weather was like etc. Guess, what? We didn't complain to the universe, we just took it all in stride as part of the fun we were trying to have. Seems to me the crowds were way bigger back in the old days as well. Coincidence?
                  Excellent post. Zero accountability is not the problem. People are more than allowed to have gripes, but spreading false/incorrect information DOES hurt local racing.

                  Thanks,
                  Jeff.

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                  • chupp n bloomer fan
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 11526

                    #10
                    Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                    Excellent post. Zero accountability is not the problem. People are more than allowed to have gripes, but spreading false/incorrect information DOES hurt local racing.

                    Thanks,
                    Jeff.
                    Yeah it is the problem. If you can't read/weed through people's BS, that's your own fault. With the Internet, no reason you can't Google a track, and say what an idiot, that place looks bad a$$. On here, there's people you know are full of sh!t and take it for what it is, then there are others whose opinions you know aren't complete BS and you value their opinion.

                    If someone can't think for theirself, then yeah, it can hurt a track. I've never not done what I wanted because of 4m or anything else for that matter. Look at movies. Critics will tear a movie apart, and with us, the people that matter, it's a hit and makes major $$.
                    Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                    • fastford
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4059

                      #11
                      good read, I did like the part about settling disputes face to face, instead of hiding behind a screen, the OLD school way..........

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                      • W2Racing09
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 1691

                        #12
                        Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
                        Yeah it is the problem. If you can't read/weed through people's BS, that's your own fault. With the Internet, no reason you can't Google a track, and say what an idiot, that place looks bad a$$. On here, there's people you know are full of sh!t and take it for what it is, then there are others whose opinions you know aren't complete BS and you value their opinion.

                        If someone can't think for theirself, then yeah, it can hurt a track. I've never not done what I wanted because of 4m or anything else for that matter. Look at movies. Critics will tear a movie apart, and with us, the people that matter, it's a hit and makes major $$.
                        Agreed - people should be able to tell.

                        With that said the stands at a lot of events in America (not just dirt racing) are filled with people who can't think for themselves. There are a lot of people in my generation who won't eat anywhere, or buy a product or anything without looking at reviews first. I'm guilty of it myself, if a restaurant has a bad review I never even give it a chance. With racing I know how to discern an idiot with a stupid opinion, from a legitimate problem -- but I'm very dependent on hearsay. Restaurants and Product Manufacturers have begun to pursue people who lie, or post false info legally and I expect racing to start doing the same thing in the not too distant future.

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                        • kidrock
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 16409

                          #13
                          For anyone to think social media can't have an affect on a track is foolish but, to say it is it's soul demise is foolish as well. Remember what they say just because, it's on the internet does not always make it true.

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                          • chupp n bloomer fan
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 11526

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                            For anyone to think social media can't have an affect on a track is foolish but, to say it is it's soul demise is foolish as well. Remember what they say just because, it's on the internet does not always make it true.
                            BS. The State Farm lady said its true
                            Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                            • chupp n bloomer fan
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 11526

                              #15
                              Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                              Agreed - people should be able to tell.

                              With that said the stands at a lot of events in America (not just dirt racing) are filled with people who can't think for themselves. There are a lot of people in my generation who won't eat anywhere, or buy a product or anything without looking at reviews first. I'm guilty of it myself, if a restaurant has a bad review I never even give it a chance. With racing I know how to discern an idiot with a stupid opinion, from a legitimate problem -- but I'm very dependent on hearsay. Restaurants and Product Manufacturers have begun to pursue people who lie, or post false info legally and I expect racing to start doing the same thing in the not too distant future.
                              As they should 100%.

                              I agree with everything you said. When it comes to reviews though, if there is 100 good ones, and two bad, I'm going. If it's pretty well split, I'm not.
                              Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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