Is Atomic Buckeye purse sufficient for a "Crown Jewel"?

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  • johnE
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 763

    #1

    Is Atomic Buckeye purse sufficient for a "Crown Jewel"?

    I don't have the purse structure of other "Crown Jewels" in front of me, but for a $50K to win purse this one seems way too top heavy. $3K to start is adequate but finish in top 5 and only make a grand more than last place seems out of balance. It would be better for the sport to pay $40K to win and spread the other $10K around the top ten.

    And Dirt on Dirt hedged their bet, backing off a little from calling this race a new "Crown Jewel."

    And the announced format change for next year will help distribute the purse money more widely.
  • Josh Bayko
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 8737

    #2
    The purse is great, but crown jewel is a very overused term in late model racing. A race shouldn't be declared a crown jewel until it has a deep history and becomes one of those "must win before retiring" races.
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    • PennDirt
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 2624

      #3
      Because DoD says so.

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      • Highside Hustler25
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 12921

        #4
        Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
        The purse is great, but crown jewel is a very overused term in late model racing. A race shouldn't be declared a crown jewel until it has a deep history and becomes one of those "must win before retiring" races.
        Well said.
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        • MRM
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          • May 2007
          • 2999

          #5
          Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
          The purse is great, but crown jewel is a very overused term in late model racing. A race shouldn't be declared a crown jewel until it has a deep history and becomes one of those "must win before retiring" races.
          Totally agree.
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          • dirtdobber45
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 7226

            #6
            Im with Josh when its been around 5 or 10 years then you can call it a crown jewel
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            • W2Racing09
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 1691

              #7
              When I build purses for the Modified shows that I promote I always try to stay with one rule: the start money should be 10% of the win money. If you can't afford to do that, then you are paying too much up top.

              The current purse is: $151, 300.00

              In my opinion this race would still have garnered a lot of attention (just as much if not more than they already got) if the payout was like this:

              1. $32,000
              2. $20,000
              3. $12,000
              4. $9,000
              5. $8,000
              6. $7,000
              7. $6,000
              8. $5,000
              9. $4,500
              10. $4,000
              11. $3,850
              12. $3,700
              13. $3,600
              14. $3,500
              15. $3,400
              16. $3,300
              17. $3,275
              18. $3,250
              19. $3,225
              20. $3,200
              21. $3,200
              22. $3,200
              23. $3,200
              24. $3,200
              26. $3,200

              It's an extra $10k total (keep in mind I have no experience scheduling a race with even close to $10k in total purse so my opinion means pretty much nothing) but to me it looks a lot more attractive to drivers (if you finish from 3-5 you are essentially getting paid what you would get for winning a regular WoO/LOLMDS show, and if you finish in the top 10 you are getting the pay for winning a big regional show). It does keep with my general rule of 10% of the winners share to last place.

              I know it does not always work out that it can be done that way (I have a race on my schedule this year that is $1000 to win, and $80 to start just because a track decided to add $200 to the top of an $800 to win, $80 to start purse) but it is what I try for. I could imagine it would be even more important in some of these bigger events where those guys finishing 5-10 are some of the best drivers in the country and deserve to be paid well.

              Thanks,
              Jeff

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              • Aces&Eights
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2016
                • 237

                #8
                $50K is a Crown Jewel to me. Needs to be 100 laps but that much dough gets your attention. JMO.

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                • Drop Shock
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 821

                  #9
                  I think the payout needs to be tweeted. Erb finished 5th and got $4000, while O'neal made 1 lap and got $3000. That's why there were a lot of cars in the infield before halfway. Just doesn't make a lot of financial sense for a guy to bounce around for 75 laps to make a couple hundred more dollars than they would of they had pulled in after a few laps.

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                  • Aluminium Block
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 151

                    #10
                    They probably would have gotten the same car and fan count for $25,000 to win and $2,000 to start. They threw a lot of extra money at it with no real result.

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                    • zyoung25
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 8945

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Aluminium Block View Post
                      They probably would have gotten the same car and fan count for $25,000 to win and $2,000 to start. They threw a lot of extra money at it with no real result.
                      I beg to differ. Weather is what killed this race. My dad decided to stay home because of the colder temps. I know that's just one person, wonder how many others felt the same way? I'd say several. There was a lot more people there for the Buckeye spring race than there was for this one. The weather was perfect that, and they had 42 cars if I remember right. A weekend when the weather was gonna a be like it should've been. 60+ lates and mods both, and the stands are slammed with fans.

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